from: Courtney Bouchard - NOAA Federal to: Lacey Mason - NOAA Federal date: Aug 26, 2022, 1:35 PM subject: Re: Characterization Sheet access question Hey Lacey, This email is actually good enough for us to use in order to archive the sheets. I'll include it in the /about/ directory of the accession. Thank you for following up on that. Let me know if you have any questions. -Courtney ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- from: Paul Lemieux - NOAA Federal to: Courtney Bouchard - NOAA Federal date: Aug 26, 2022, 1:31 PM subject: Re: Characterization Sheet access question Courtney, Yes I think that is fine to use. Thanks for following up with this! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- from: Courtney Bouchard - NOAA Federal to: Paul Lemieux - NOAA Federal date: Aug 26, 2022, 1:02 PM subject: Fwd: Characterization Sheet access question Hey Paul, I think this email should be good enough from SeaBird, but I wanted to double check if it is with you first. Let me know what you think! /Courtney ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- from: Lacey Mason - NOAA Federal to: Courtney Bouchard - NOAA Federal date: Aug 26, 2022, 12:32 PM subject: Fwd: Characterization Sheet access question Hi Courtney, See the response from SeaBird below. What do you think? Thanks! Lacey ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Sea-Bird Scientific Service Date: Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 12:46 PM Subject: RE: Characterization Sheet access question To: Lacey Mason - NOAA Federal , Sea-Bird Scientific Service Hello Lacey, I have forwarded your question to my technical support team lead, who can help address your inquiry. As a high level response, the calibration certs are provided to you for your use and can be store and archived as your needs require. We retain the rights to the intellectual property (and relevant protections around that property), but certs provided to you and sensor data (observation) are yours to store and use, as needed. Best regards, Paul From: Lacey Mason - NOAA Federal Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 1:50 PM To: Sea-Bird Scientific Service Subject: Re: Characterization Sheet access question Thank you for the very quick response! I think these sheets are important to include with the data. Is there a way for you to provide a letter stating these sheets could be archived at NOAA NCEI along with our observation data? Cheers, Lacey On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 3:18 PM Sea-Bird Scientific Service wrote: Hello Lacey, We can provide to you the necessary characterization sheets via email, but unfortunately, we do not currently have the ability to provide an online portal for customer files (other than possibly Google docs, or the like). Best regards, Paul From: Lacey Mason - NOAA Federal Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 12:12 PM To: Sea-Bird Scientific Service Subject: Characterization Sheet access question I am the data manager at NOAA's Great Lakes Environmental Research Laboratory. I am in the process of archiving observations from our WetLabs fluorometers with the NOAA data archives at NCEI. I would like to include the characterization sheets with the data, but we are running into a potential copyright issue. Is there a way I can access these sheets directly from the SeaBird website? If so, can you please share with me how to do that? I have attached one of these sheets as an example. Thank you, Lacey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ from: Lacey Mason - NOAA Federal to: Courtney Bouchard - NOAA Federal date: Aug 19, 2022, 6:44 AM subject: Re: Potential Copyright issue with Accessions 0255938 & 0255820 Hi Courtney, SeaBird confirmed these are not available on their website. I have asked if they would give us written permission to archive them and I haven't heard back yet. If I don't hear back by next week I will go ahead and make a document with the important information from the calibration sheets and send it to you. Thanks, Lacey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ from: Courtney Bouchard - NOAA Federal to: Lacey Mason - NOAA Federal date: Aug 17, 2022, 9:18 AM subject: Re: Potential Copyright issue with Accessions 0255938 & 0255820 Hey Lacey, Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. We've been talking about these and I had a few suggestions of what we can do: 1. If you can create a text file or your own PDF with the important information about the instrument calibration we can archive those no problem. 2. Since this is going to become a collection (and I'm assuming added to in the future?) if you get ahold of SeaBird if they can give you an email that you can forward to me or include me in where they give explicit permission to archive these documents in the NCEI archive that would be great so we don't have to get permission for each individual sheet to be archived. Let me know what you think or if you have any questions. It was flagged as copyright information because of the official SeaBird and WetLabs headers and information at the top. But I understand if creating them yourself adds more work for y'all. thank you! Courtney ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ from: Lacey Mason - NOAA Federal to: Courtney Bouchard - NOAA Federal date: Aug 16, 2022, 2:12 PM subject: Re: Potential Copyright issue with Accessions 0255938 & 0255820 Hi Courtney, I am back in the office and working on this issue. Since SeaBird bought out WetLabs I am not sure if they are accessible online. I have reached to to SeaBird and I will let you know what I found out! Stay tuned, Lacey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ from: Courtney Bouchard - NOAA Federal to: Lacey Mason - NOAA Federal date: Aug 15, 2022, 4:39 PM subject: Potential Copyright issue with Accessions 0255938 & 0255820 Hey Lacey, I hope you're doing well. I was informed today from the data officer reviewing the submission I made for publishing that the files in the M45x and M110 mooring datasets for the fluorometer characterization sheets may have issues being archived if we don't have explicit permission from Wet Labs and Sea Bird to use them. If WetLabs created this sheet when they calibrated the machine then we may have to get permission from them to archive, did you get these directly from them for the instruments you used? If it's something you've created with the seabird software then we can archive them as is. If it's something they provided to you, we can add them to a cross reference if we have a domain for them, such as from the seabird website or other source (like we have in the Documents tab of the landing page. Otherwise, we will need to include an emailed permission from WetLabs so we're not archiving copyrighted information. If you need further explanation of what I'm talking about please let me know. Thank you, Courtney