[00:04:07] back up [00:04:17] just under 2h to off bottom [00:04:23] LAT :-5.40256, LON : -173.96025, DEPTH : 536.1147m, TEMP : 7.61574C, SAL : 34.58067 PSU, DO : 3.45006 mg/L [00:04:25] LAT :-5.40262, LON : -173.96025, DEPTH : 527.9051m, TEMP : 7.53506C, SAL : 34.57852 PSU, DO : 3.45206 mg/L [00:04:26] LAT :-5.40263, LON : -173.96023, DEPTH : 524.6356m, TEMP : 7.83745C, SAL : 34.59137 PSU, DO : 3.50153 mg/L [00:07:21] soniarowley leaves the room [00:07:45] LAT :-5.40258, LON : -173.96007, DEPTH : 523.3181m, TEMP : 8.04395C, SAL : 34.60889 PSU, DO : 3.48156 mg/L [00:08:16] very nice face view [00:09:25] erikcordes leaves the room [00:09:32] don't know what it found to eat but it sure is working it over [00:12:44] LAT :-5.40266, LON : -173.96007, DEPTH : 520.7018m, TEMP : 7.96799C, SAL : 34.59833 PSU, DO : 3.50497 mg/L [00:12:45] andreaquattrini leaves the room [00:12:46] thanks for holding for a few secs guys - very grateful to have Kiribati folks call in [00:15:18] white primnoid fan. New individual. Maybe Paracalyptrophora? [00:15:20] there looks to be two species [00:15:23] Les, any idea on that crab? I do not have an ID yet. Nothing in my literature...yet [00:16:47] urchin may graze that part... [00:17:10] Sorry Tim, if you meant he spiky lumpy one I was hoping for a view of the back side of it. Thought maybe it was a homolid. [00:17:45] LAT :-5.40266, LON : -173.95999, DEPTH : 522.3749m, TEMP : 8.06920C, SAL : 34.60431 PSU, DO : 3.50477 mg/L [00:19:16] soniarowley leaves the room [00:22:45] LAT :-5.40272, LON : -173.95986, DEPTH : 521.1082m, TEMP : 8.23194C, SAL : 34.60197 PSU, DO : 3.44487 mg/L [00:23:21] I feel like this is a new chriostylid morph we are seeing on these primnoid fans [00:23:46] Epigonus species [00:23:57] Looks the same as when I left the office! [00:24:51] yes, Scott. coral garden continue. [00:25:37] @Asako: nothing wrong with that! [00:27:46] LAT :-5.40271, LON : -173.95974, DEPTH : 516.4919m, TEMP : 8.25763C, SAL : 34.61581 PSU, DO : 3.41435 mg/L [00:27:47] Primnoid Place... Primnoid Peak... Primnoid Plot... [00:28:06] Primnoid Patch... [00:28:35] Primnoid Pinnacle... [00:28:38] Primnoid Palace? [00:28:59] Primnoid Promenatory [00:29:14] Primnoid Plaza [00:30:36] dos anyone know what are the little three or four branched little things coating the rock surface? [00:31:08] everytime we get a close-up they are very obvious [00:31:19] those were ophiuroids in holes in the rock, I think [00:31:37] thanks, interesting! [00:31:40] the ophuroid carpet? they are tucked into the pits [00:31:43] maybe someone else can confirm or refute that [00:31:45] Bruce/Les: ophs in the rock with arms extended, very dense [00:32:09] indeed, @Amanda, very dense! [00:32:19] i wonder if the ophs create the little holes. possible if this is carbonate. [00:32:20] And they are quite small... [00:32:37] a nervous coral [00:32:47] LAT :-5.40277, LON : -173.95976, DEPTH : 516.5223m, TEMP : 8.26705C, SAL : 34.61466 PSU, DO : 3.46854 mg/L [00:32:55] nice call Bruce! [00:33:02] Wow! Thought it was jumpy video at first! [00:33:14] Shiver me timbers. [00:33:42] hard to see! [00:33:44] polyps folded downwards [00:34:58] quite a current running over the top of that little hill [00:35:19] @Steve: I also am not 100% certain. But earlier I was pointing out the similarity just so we had the observation on the table. [00:35:42] I would certainly not be opposed to collecting a piece because it is definitely characteristic. [00:35:48] bamboo alert! [00:36:32] I am alerted. [00:36:42] would be nice to grab one of the dead branches. A couple of people would like some of that [00:36:57] Keratoisis magnifica...? [00:37:04] especially since it doesn't look chewed up [00:37:14] But looks nodal... [00:37:24] this one is nodal, yep [00:37:25] Although some small branches were internodal [00:37:39] Hmmm... J clade? [00:37:47] LAT :-5.40264, LON : -173.95968, DEPTH : 517.8758m, TEMP : 8.27616C, SAL : 34.61564 PSU, DO : 3.46282 mg/L [00:37:52] my guess @Scott [00:37:54] Orstomisis? [00:38:11] or a relative [00:38:22] @Les: in this case, your guess really is as good as my guess! ;-) [00:38:42] haha [00:40:05] Trachichthyidae, Hoplostethus species (probably H. crassispinus), a roughy [00:41:28] nickpawlenko leaves the room [00:42:47] LAT :-5.40280, LON : -173.95963, DEPTH : 510.0968m, TEMP : 8.29124C, SAL : 34.61641 PSU, DO : 3.43494 mg/L [00:43:44] :Lophiidae, goosefish, a Lophiodes species [00:45:22] nasty guy, stomping the little amphipod stick [00:47:24] goosefish are not nice, when you learn more about them. tasty though (o.k., humans aren't nice either).. [00:47:48] LAT :-5.40283, LON : -173.95958, DEPTH : 505.7752m, TEMP : 8.26932C, SAL : 34.61478 PSU, DO : 3.45876 mg/L [00:48:17] michaelparke leaves the room [00:51:13] ctenophore [00:51:41] looked like a UFO... [00:52:00] but was a UCO... [00:52:48] LAT :-5.40294, LON : -173.95944, DEPTH : 500.5261m, TEMP : 8.16459C, SAL : 34.59476 PSU, DO : 3.51209 mg/L [00:54:48] michaelparke leaves the room [00:56:23] Or bamboo coral...? Wishful thinking? [00:56:43] Yup - wishful thinking! :-) [00:56:47] Paragorgia? [00:57:08] shaking a little - more current [00:57:18] looks like Paragorgia to me [00:57:26] A Paragorgiidae of some kind... [00:57:33] Not sure which of the genera [00:57:49] LAT :-5.40302, LON : -173.95931, DEPTH : 498.9968m, TEMP : 8.25820C, SAL : 34.60901 PSU, DO : 3.49569 mg/L [00:57:52] big old dude [00:58:06] lasers on base please? [00:58:18] in that case, collect? [00:58:57] its in a very tough position... downhill. Would take some time to setup [00:59:16] wow. really small translucent to white squat lobsters [00:59:18] @Asako: I meant that I don't know my Paragorgiidae genera well enough to say which one it is. [00:59:27] eumunida squat lobster feeding [00:59:55] @Scott: understand. I'm bit worried about the time for the collection. [01:00:41] @Asako: understood. [01:00:50] a black ophi!!!??? [01:00:58] black.... [01:01:21] santiagoherrera leaves the room [01:01:21] so, it may worth to collect the black ophi??? [01:01:24] erikcordes leaves the room [01:01:40] katharineweathers leaves the room [01:01:49] agree with that... something weird here [01:02:20] It's funny. Our shallow water ophiuroids in Hawaii are usually dark brown or black (and under rocks). I just told some visitors that the deepwater ones are light in color. Biodiversity loves to play tricks. [01:02:21] there are 2 black ophis - another one to the right i think [01:02:49] LAT :-5.40301, LON : -173.95932, DEPTH : 499.1789m, TEMP : 7.94109C, SAL : 34.60111 PSU, DO : 3.48179 mg/L [01:02:59] would this be a collection possibility for the oph? [01:03:27] definitely an asteroschematid but body plates looked a bit strange. [01:03:38] michaelparke leaves the room [01:05:04] Triacanthodidae, Hollardia cf. goslinei, spikefish [01:06:02] brucemundy leaves the room [01:07:50] LAT :-5.40301, LON : -173.95911, DEPTH : 496.5180m, TEMP : 8.18645C, SAL : 34.61335 PSU, DO : 3.44771 mg/L [01:11:42] nickpawlenko leaves the room [01:12:34] leswatling leaves the room [01:12:51] LAT :-5.40307, LON : -173.95901, DEPTH : 487.1254m, TEMP : 8.27271C, SAL : 34.61532 PSU, DO : 3.45111 mg/L [01:14:53] That may be gold coral. [01:15:05] I had audio off if that was already noted. [01:15:30] That will likely be an important observation. [01:15:56] That is correct Amanda [01:16:09] Overgrows usually bamboo corals. [01:17:11] I suggest collecting a piece. [01:17:21] Took the words from the tips of my fingers! [01:17:51] LAT :-5.40316, LON : -173.95895, DEPTH : 489.4506m, TEMP : 7.91972C, SAL : 34.59791 PSU, DO : 3.51070 mg/L [01:17:58] agree to collect [01:18:04] I am fine with collection [01:18:10] ok by me [01:18:25] How much time is left in the dive? Would indeed image a bit more for associates :-) too. [01:19:01] just curious - was there a rock collected on this dive yet? apologies, but i had to miss some portions tonight [01:19:24] (obviously no collectible rock in sight right now - just curious about earlier) [01:19:43] @Tim: I think it is less 1 hr left... [01:19:50] lasers on base please? [01:20:41] size requirements? 10, 15, 20cm? [01:21:26] 15 or 20? [01:22:02] I'm thinking of a long enough piece that you get some thicker axial skeleton for analysis [01:22:30] i.e. not just the really thin newest growth [01:22:52] LAT :-5.40316, LON : -173.95899, DEPTH : 489.9087m, TEMP : 8.09140C, SAL : 34.59831 PSU, DO : 3.49716 mg/L [01:27:52] LAT :-5.40318, LON : -173.95898, DEPTH : 489.8489m, TEMP : 8.21139C, SAL : 34.61309 PSU, DO : 3.42328 mg/L [01:31:16] D2_DIVE17_SPEC01BIO [01:32:23] @amanda - thanks! [01:32:53] LAT :-5.40319, LON : -173.95898, DEPTH : 489.8871m, TEMP : 8.29999C, SAL : 34.62639 PSU, DO : 3.39290 mg/L [01:36:14] katharineweathers leaves the room [01:37:53] LAT :-5.40321, LON : -173.95888, DEPTH : 480.8884m, TEMP : 8.24270C, SAL : 34.61505 PSU, DO : 3.41794 mg/L [01:39:57] I'm back. The pomfret was Eumegistus illustris (Bramidae). Still haven't gotten to the ray yet. [01:40:35] Like the last big bamboo coral we imaged [01:41:41] octopus on upper left [01:42:14] Octopus Friday for Emily Crum! [01:42:16] bruce: nice [01:42:23] Friday! [01:42:37] Friday here in Hawaii :) [01:42:55] LAT :-5.40322, LON : -173.95880, DEPTH : 478.1237m, TEMP : 8.32391C, SAL : 34.61952 PSU, DO : 3.44270 mg/L [01:44:08] its Friday here in Japan :) [01:44:19] Interesting "nipple" like structure on the head [01:46:11] I found the video section with the ray. It was definitely a Plesiobatis daviesi (Plesiobatidae), the deepwater stingaree [01:46:15] @Amanda - any chance these pits are from urchins? [01:46:47] The Eumegistus is circling D2, if you watch Serios [01:46:56] @Amanda - Sorry for the shallow perspective, but it's looking a bit reefy. Those canyons are v. interesting [01:47:42] Wow! [01:47:55] LAT :-5.40320, LON : -173.95873, DEPTH : 472.8366m, TEMP : 8.17001C, SAL : 34.61211 PSU, DO : 3.42737 mg/L [01:48:01] randi: i know that lots of things could create those pits, reminds me of our canyon dives in Atlantic, possibly sponges, urchins, etc [01:48:07] Gold coral in the making... [01:48:10] great observation! [01:49:49] Likely in genus Jasonisis [01:50:12] In the future will be in gold coral genus! [01:50:33] Per the goosefish seen earlier, from John Caruso - "Very nice photos! If this is not Lophiodes miacanthus, it is very close to it. I am amazed how similar it is to the photos we have of Lophiodes beroe from the Atlantic coast of the US. The enlarged olfactory organs indicate it is a mature male." [01:51:15] Its like a butterfly metamorphosis [01:52:19] deep-sea crop circle? [01:52:56] LAT :-5.40323, LON : -173.95865, DEPTH : 472.3317m, TEMP : 8.04235C, SAL : 34.60199 PSU, DO : 3.47515 mg/L [01:53:27] similar to formations we see at the surface. Just a hypothesis. [01:53:34] Perhaps when shallower currents swirled in that space [01:53:42] @Scott - exactly [01:53:45] @Randi: I agree [01:53:51] haha We agree! [01:54:01] :) [01:54:17] @Jan - ?? [01:54:25] I'll join in and agree too. [01:54:53] o.k., that definitely was not a snake eel snout. It would have moved by now if it was [01:55:30] Polymixia, beardfish [01:56:00] Nice video. Thanks [01:56:03] This whole structure looks ~~reefy. If we see a rock, would love to collect. [01:57:04] already cured the octopus [01:57:08] cue the megamouth shark! [01:57:19] yes [01:57:30] Eumegistus circling D2 [01:57:56] LAT :-5.40328, LON : -173.95859, DEPTH : 465.6237m, TEMP : 8.33136C, SAL : 34.61713 PSU, DO : 3.44811 mg/L [01:58:30] And from Hans Ho about the lophiid - "Yes, agree with John. We recognized specimens of L. miacanthus from tropical Pacific and Indian Ocean side of Indonesia, but always very few individuals. I doubt there is something else, but don't have enough evidence now. It was not that rare in northeastern Taiwan about 10 years ago, but not now." [01:59:07] Former bamboo corals... [02:02:01] most likely ophiuroids [02:02:57] LAT :-5.40319, LON : -173.95842, DEPTH : 468.2032m, TEMP : 8.46662C, SAL : 34.62433 PSU, DO : 3.34244 mg/L [02:03:40] still see the Eumegistus swimming around D2 in the Serios view. [02:04:01] asakomatsumoto leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [02:05:37] gold coral (maybe Kulamanamana haumeaae) [02:06:18] reconnecting the line [02:06:56] saw two more gold coral (maybe Kulamanamana haumeaae) [02:07:04] EX1703_DIVE17 Vehicles Ascending [02:07:10] Eumegistus still circling [02:07:45] heading off bottom [02:07:56] off bottom depth is 463 [02:07:58] LAT :-5.40326, LON : -173.95833, DEPTH : 461.1457m, TEMP : 8.93425C, SAL : 34.66199 PSU, DO : 2.99139 mg/L [02:08:21] This is the last dive of this leg that I can participate in. Sorry that I will miss the last 2. I'll be back for the next leg in late April, though. It's been great fun and really interesting. [02:08:24] Time to post-dive call? [02:08:43] 10 mins. Just trying to get connecting to the line [02:08:45] issues with the call [02:08:46] @Bruce: glad to hear you'll be back! [02:08:56] Copy that Steve. [02:09:07] Thank you to the crew, ROV operators, videographers, and scientists. [02:09:36] Allen Andrews referenced Roark et al. (2006, 2009) for age and growth of gold corals as microns per year, hence big colonies are on the order of 1000's of year old.  The basal structures are usually bamboo coral, as seen in some cases today, which are usually 100s of years old for large colonies to begin with. [02:09:57] Thank you very much for everyone both on the ship and shore. it was interesting dive again. glad to join. see you tomorrow! [02:10:09] Thank you so much everyone - another incredible dive!!! [02:10:37] asakomatsumoto leaves the room [02:12:58] LAT :-5.40308, LON : -173.95895, DEPTH : 426.2312m, TEMP : 9.04681C, SAL : 34.66704 PSU, DO : 2.95532 mg/L [02:13:09] janwitting leaves the room [02:17:23] brucemundy leaves the room [02:17:59] LAT :-5.40307, LON : -173.95899, DEPTH : 295.8938m, TEMP : 11.26620C, SAL : 34.82707 PSU, DO : 2.72181 mg/L [02:22:59] LAT :-5.40307, LON : -173.95863, DEPTH : 130.7060m, TEMP : 27.86167C, SAL : 35.69949 PSU, DO : 5.65789 mg/L [02:26:42] stevenauscavitch leaves the room [02:28:00] LAT :-5.40299, LON : -173.95858, DEPTH : 54.4163m, TEMP : 29.47892C, SAL : 35.52488 PSU, DO : 6.34651 mg/L [02:33:00] LAT :-5.40292, LON : -173.95944, DEPTH : 10.2565m, TEMP : 29.74837C, SAL : 35.39010 PSU, DO : 6.32949 mg/L [02:33:45] EX1703_DIVE17 Recovery Complete [02:46:08] timothyshank leaves the room [02:56:02] scottfrance leaves the room [03:44:32] randirotjan leaves the room [04:53:15] chat-admin leaves the room [07:49:02] amandademopoulos leaves the room [17:32:34] EX1703 DIVE18 Predive test message [17:34:44] randirotjan leaves the room [18:06:43] EX1703_DIVE18 Rov Launch [18:19:45] EX1703_DIVE18 Vehicles in the Water [18:20:32] EX1703_DIVE18 Vehicles Descending [18:21:18] LAT :-6.49144, LON : -173.58659, DEPTH : 16.8184m, TEMP : 29.54697C, SAL : 35.41256 PSU, DO : 6.29561 mg/L [18:26:19] LAT :-6.49140, LON : -173.58593, DEPTH : 49.6841m, TEMP : 29.11489C, SAL : 35.47784 PSU, DO : 6.40128 mg/L [18:31:20] LAT :-6.49183, LON : -173.58579, DEPTH : 173.9576m, TEMP : 25.31498C, SAL : 36.26778 PSU, DO : 5.07937 mg/L [18:36:20] LAT :-6.49203, LON : -173.58568, DEPTH : 323.5853m, TEMP : 11.80458C, SAL : 34.86531 PSU, DO : 2.41774 mg/L [18:41:21] LAT :-6.49192, LON : -173.58526, DEPTH : 472.6413m, TEMP : 8.44265C, SAL : 34.62530 PSU, DO : 3.83019 mg/L [18:46:22] LAT :-6.49176, LON : -173.58479, DEPTH : 623.4021m, TEMP : 6.69967C, SAL : 34.54564 PSU, DO : 3.09070 mg/L [18:51:22] LAT :-6.49163, LON : -173.58464, DEPTH : 774.4362m, TEMP : 5.59032C, SAL : 34.53435 PSU, DO : 2.71212 mg/L [18:56:23] LAT :-6.49180, LON : -173.58464, DEPTH : 931.6931m, TEMP : 4.90090C, SAL : 34.53885 PSU, DO : 2.61525 mg/L [19:01:23] LAT :-6.49172, LON : -173.58417, DEPTH : 1089.8643m, TEMP : 4.23111C, SAL : 34.54899 PSU, DO : 2.96588 mg/L [19:06:24] LAT :-6.49158, LON : -173.58390, DEPTH : 1239.9131m, TEMP : 3.73832C, SAL : 34.56369 PSU, DO : 3.07710 mg/L [19:11:24] LAT :-6.49145, LON : -173.58389, DEPTH : 1394.9954m, TEMP : 3.41383C, SAL : 34.57691 PSU, DO : 3.17024 mg/L [19:12:09] amandademopoulos leaves the room [19:16:25] LAT :-6.49141, LON : -173.58391, DEPTH : 1549.1087m, TEMP : 2.91345C, SAL : 34.59975 PSU, DO : 3.46339 mg/L [19:17:17] Call will be delayed a few moments. Sorry for the delay. There is an ongoing interaction [19:17:32] Wrapping up now [19:21:26] LAT :-6.49152, LON : -173.58388, DEPTH : 1703.3493m, TEMP : 2.60194C, SAL : 34.61477 PSU, DO : 3.73435 mg/L [19:24:57] Good morning all. [19:25:18] Few more moments on the interaction all. Sorry for the delay [19:25:28] Hi everyone! [19:26:14] Hello all. [19:26:26] LAT :-6.49154, LON : -173.58383, DEPTH : 1865.2622m, TEMP : 2.28810C, SAL : 34.63425 PSU, DO : 3.75647 mg/L [19:28:39] randirotjan leaves the room [19:29:50] conference line keeps hanging up on me [19:30:24] I will type any comments relevant here in the chat [19:31:14] gotcha. i'll monitor it here [19:31:27] LAT :-6.49160, LON : -173.58375, DEPTH : 2014.6210m, TEMP : 2.14500C, SAL : 34.64196 PSU, DO : 3.90362 mg/L [19:32:17] good morning all [19:33:05] hi santiago [19:33:18] call failed again [19:36:09] Hello Santiago. [19:36:18] Hello Erik [19:36:23] Hi Randi [19:36:25] Bottom in sight [19:36:28] LAT :-6.49189, LON : -173.58347, DEPTH : 2095.2557m, TEMP : 2.00401C, SAL : 34.65248 PSU, DO : 3.90175 mg/L [19:37:35] EX1703_DIVE18 Vehicles on Bottom [19:41:28] LAT :-6.49185, LON : -173.58344, DEPTH : 2105.7695m, TEMP : 2.02217C, SAL : 34.64477 PSU, DO : 3.96730 mg/L [19:43:00] octocoral [19:43:11] not really identifiable but I'd hazard bamboo. [19:43:27] good morning all [19:43:45] I saw octocoral! [19:43:56] bamboo. odd branching [19:43:59] baby coral [19:44:04] Good hazard, Steve... [19:44:04] deborahglickson leaves the room [19:44:38] wow, nice crinoids [19:44:55] Proisocrinus ruberimus [19:45:08] maybe [19:46:11] I suspect when we get a look at the bamboo coral that it will have nodal branching = Isidella like (clade I1) [19:46:29] LAT :-6.49180, LON : -173.58340, DEPTH : 2105.7183m, TEMP : 2.00571C, SAL : 34.65184 PSU, DO : 4.03674 mg/L [19:48:04] re: tomorrow's dive - maybe just shooch that whole dive track over so that it ends on the summit. I don't think the backscatter was significantly different along that steep slope, and I have found that backscatter data are less reliable on a slope like that. 600 m track length seems doable, as long as it ends at the top [19:48:28] thanks erik-i'll look it over with derek while he still has the map up [19:48:56] randirotjan leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [19:49:04] Great lighting... [19:49:34] And there is why we look! [19:49:43] Looks internodal... [19:49:47] branching [19:49:52] agree @Erik and Amanda. Think we should design it to hit the top of the summit tomorrow. [19:49:55] one more branch below [19:50:14] no apparent associates on this bamboo [19:50:15] So back to the drawing board on this ID [19:50:28] I think it is branching just distal to the node [19:51:06] Cursed bamboo corals... [19:51:18] tim/erik-ok, looks like we have a possible plan, maybe [19:51:28] But the tiy branch is internode [19:51:32] LAT :-6.49175, LON : -173.58337, DEPTH : 2105.0634m, TEMP : 2.00793C, SAL : 34.67515 PSU, DO : 3.96103 mg/L [19:51:34] *tiny [19:51:43] Thanks - beautiful steady images [19:51:48] @amanda - sounds good. You guys haven't steered us wrong yet! [19:51:54] As usual, kudos to the whole team [19:52:25] @Erik at least not anything we haven't told you about...:P [19:52:35] Hola! [19:52:43] Hi Peter [19:53:07] everything's great, as far as I know. Let's just keep it that way :) [19:53:31] no apparent associates on this black coral.... [19:54:19] Or Heteropathes [19:54:35] My computer froze there when I was typing about the black coral [19:55:07] yes Heteropathes. Amanda started me saying Hexapathes now I'm confused... [19:55:22] boo hoo [19:55:26] That Amanda... [19:56:30] LAT :-6.49178, LON : -173.58335, DEPTH : 2102.3591m, TEMP : 2.01548C, SAL : 34.68109 PSU, DO : 3.92893 mg/L [19:56:33] ok i think we have a plan-derek found the peak of the summit, highest point-760m, bit of slope/bit of ridge, final waypoint is the peak. starting depth at 1018m [19:57:36] Sounds excellent [19:57:47] Desmophyllum. Large septa extending beyond the calyx rim [19:59:36] These are some bg blocks of rock. [20:01:31] LAT :-6.49176, LON : -173.58338, DEPTH : 2098.4609m, TEMP : 2.00952C, SAL : 34.67671 PSU, DO : 3.99881 mg/L [20:01:33] santiagoherrera leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [20:01:52] XENO [20:02:18] Equivalent to us building our houses from the bones of our ancestors... [20:02:54] scott: very nice [20:03:32] @Amanda: but an accurate analogy, I think. [20:04:51] Hi Tina! [20:04:55] scott: agree, not being sarcastic, for a change [20:05:26] looked like a chrysogorgia a little upslope.... [20:05:46] .....chrysogorgid [20:06:04] Is that a slope crusted over with Mn? [20:06:32] LAT :-6.49175, LON : -173.58317, DEPTH : 2092.4515m, TEMP : 2.03550C, SAL : 34.65434 PSU, DO : 4.00502 mg/L [20:07:36] Black coral [20:07:41] "upside down" widening armed chirostylid- on chrysogorgid [20:07:54] santiagoherrera leaves the room [20:08:34] Perhaps a young Heteropathes [20:08:57] nickpawlenko leaves the room [20:10:57] HOL [20:11:32] LAT :-6.49170, LON : -173.58322, DEPTH : 2090.5783m, TEMP : 2.01468C, SAL : 34.65148 PSU, DO : 4.00787 mg/L [20:12:01] I like this! [20:14:19] Tubulariidae like [20:14:21] don't remember seeing a "stalk" like this with a solitary hydroid [20:15:07] tubulariidae have perisarc (external "tubes") [20:15:39] unlike corymorphids [20:16:21] saw several similar to this in A. Samoa growing on dead sponges, similar depth range [20:16:25] @tim [20:16:33] LAT :-6.49166, LON : -173.58320, DEPTH : 2085.3173m, TEMP : 2.03386C, SAL : 34.64946 PSU, DO : 4.00378 mg/L [20:17:17] @Santiago- stalk just seemed different- will go back and look our of curiosity [20:17:22] this one is obviously swimming [20:21:34] LAT :-6.49169, LON : -173.58315, DEPTH : 2081.9486m, TEMP : 2.10121C, SAL : 34.64504 PSU, DO : 3.90785 mg/L [20:22:28] Sponge was maybe Periphragella sp.? [20:23:21] whip [20:25:16] If there is a ledge at the top of this feature, it could be an interesting spot for sessile suspension feeders... [20:26:34] LAT :-6.49162, LON : -173.58316, DEPTH : 2060.5173m, TEMP : 2.14251C, SAL : 34.64286 PSU, DO : 3.89869 mg/L [20:29:33] Possible D clade isidid whip [20:31:10] no apparent associates... [20:31:17] on this bamboo.. [20:31:32] nickpawlenko leaves the room [20:31:34] LAT :-6.49160, LON : -173.58321, DEPTH : 2054.5462m, TEMP : 2.15615C, SAL : 34.64214 PSU, DO : 3.80732 mg/L [20:36:35] LAT :-6.49166, LON : -173.58321, DEPTH : 2055.5105m, TEMP : 2.15774C, SAL : 34.64280 PSU, DO : 3.94528 mg/L [20:37:19] Randi or Erik, do you want to do a little PIPA introduction again. We have some dead air to fill? [20:37:33] thanks! [20:39:17] Pleurogorgia! [20:41:11] looks like they are in a fissure [20:41:35] LAT :-6.49160, LON : -173.58314, DEPTH : 2052.0869m, TEMP : 2.16351C, SAL : 34.64229 PSU, DO : 3.83932 mg/L [20:42:06] we've got a bunch of neighborhood kids over, so i'm not sure I can call in without a LOT of background noise :) [20:42:23] Randi did great! [20:43:08] thanks - distracted - can hear my son crying upstairs. But happy to do that again a few times today (last dive) - can add some other perspective throughout the day. You guys are AMAZING! Talking the whole time! [20:46:24] Yes! Let's have some face melting [20:46:30] Pleurogorgia [20:46:36] LAT :-6.49150, LON : -173.58314, DEPTH : 2048.4771m, TEMP : 2.16448C, SAL : 34.64296 PSU, DO : 3.79476 mg/L [20:47:11] Say it! [20:47:56] you can't make me say it [20:48:01] any ideas on branching chryso? also pleurogorgia? [20:48:21] I don't think Pleurogorgia, which are dexcribed as planar [20:48:34] no associates :-(, but interesting [20:48:39] I'd chalk it up to one of the many, many Chrysogorgia species [20:48:54] But no idea which one. [20:50:00] we have only seen barnacles and an anemone on "Pleurogoriga" (only on bare skeleton)....Carondelet or here. [20:51:37] LAT :-6.49162, LON : -173.58305, DEPTH : 2043.4562m, TEMP : 2.18768C, SAL : 34.64073 PSU, DO : 3.83223 mg/L [20:52:00] A brief glance at Cairns' papers shows it is along the lines of C. herdendorfi (but that only known from Atlantic) or C. elegans, but those don't have the major branching of this one. [20:52:11] Unfortunately I must leave for a couple of hours. Domestic duties call. [20:54:06] scottfrance leaves the room [20:54:26] nickpawlenko leaves the room [20:56:28] guillecrinus crinoid x2 imaged [20:56:37] LAT :-6.49160, LON : -173.58295, DEPTH : 2042.0942m, TEMP : 2.24939C, SAL : 34.63594 PSU, DO : 3.69360 mg/L [21:01:21] randirotjan leaves the room [21:01:38] LAT :-6.49146, LON : -173.58308, DEPTH : 2038.3051m, TEMP : 2.29392C, SAL : 34.63428 PSU, DO : 3.65882 mg/L [21:02:37] briankennedy leaves the room [21:05:51] not seeing associates either. [21:06:09] Pleurogorgia [21:06:38] LAT :-6.49149, LON : -173.58310, DEPTH : 2033.1011m, TEMP : 2.30205C, SAL : 34.63396 PSU, DO : 3.70134 mg/L [21:07:08] This is such fantastic geology. I'm so sad I need to go in a few minutes. [21:08:15] The Serios view is amazing right now. [21:08:32] nice iridogorgia [21:09:58] deborahglickson leaves the room [21:11:06] no associates on irridogorgia- might have expected a shrimp on lower branches. Have also had crinoids and barnacles on these on bare skeleton. [21:11:39] LAT :-6.49144, LON : -173.58294, DEPTH : 2028.1131m, TEMP : 2.30843C, SAL : 34.62590 PSU, DO : 3.55219 mg/L [21:12:16] another red stalked crinoid [21:12:21] more Pleurogorgia [21:13:57] looks like 2 white fans here or more [21:14:06] darnit. I just tweeted canyon. Will change to crevice from now on. [21:14:12] Sorry. [21:14:37] primnoid. maybe candidella? [21:14:50] with Ophiocanthids [21:14:56] 5 ophiocanthid like ophiuroid associates [21:15:34] randi-there are multiple ways to say depression or crack, so it is not a big deal [21:15:41] many Pleurogorgia [21:15:48] Do you want the SQA on the chrysogorgiid too? zoom on [21:16:12] yes! [21:16:15] It looked like a tectonic fissure, that has narrowed to a crack [21:16:30] Yes, please [21:16:39] LAT :-6.49142, LON : -173.58301, DEPTH : 2025.9627m, TEMP : 2.33176C, SAL : 34.62738 PSU, DO : 3.74537 mg/L [21:16:49] FYI - tweets are for Kiribati. They don't have the bandwidth to stream the dives. THanks. [21:18:15] thank you. [21:21:09] ZOA retracted tentacles [21:21:40] LAT :-6.49139, LON : -173.58292, DEPTH : 2022.6285m, TEMP : 2.29991C, SAL : 34.63402 PSU, DO : 3.70252 mg/L [21:24:58] I need to take a break for ~~an hour... be back soon. [21:26:21] juvenile stalked crinoid? [21:26:41] LAT :-6.49148, LON : -173.58296, DEPTH : 2017.1511m, TEMP : 2.30747C, SAL : 34.63496 PSU, DO : 3.83951 mg/L [21:28:15] several crinoid morphs [21:29:06] nickpawlenko leaves the room [21:30:17] isidid [21:30:32] no associates [21:30:34] I think there is black coral to the left. [21:30:41] bamboo colony with no apparent associates. first time on this dive, but I think we have seen this one before... [21:31:42] LAT :-6.49152, LON : -173.58285, DEPTH : 2013.9155m, TEMP : 2.31143C, SAL : 34.63022 PSU, DO : 3.62110 mg/L [21:33:10] red stalked crinoids seem to be dominant here [21:33:58] great Munidopsis image [21:34:26] see tentacles on the sponge.. [21:36:42] LAT :-6.49141, LON : -173.58283, DEPTH : 2010.1886m, TEMP : 2.30894C, SAL : 34.62862 PSU, DO : 3.78398 mg/L [21:40:54] 3rd or 4th synaph on the dive? [21:41:38] been cooking so my hands have not been amenable to keyboard! [21:41:43] LAT :-6.49134, LON : -173.58282, DEPTH : 2002.4523m, TEMP : 2.30290C, SAL : 34.63407 PSU, DO : 3.77795 mg/L [21:41:56] erikcordes leaves the room [21:42:28] @peter- think so... [21:44:01] so many crinoids! [21:44:54] leswatling leaves the room [21:46:11] interesting....another Munidopsis on the rock. [21:46:33] nickpawlenko leaves the room [21:46:43] LAT :-6.49134, LON : -173.58276, DEPTH : 1998.5969m, TEMP : 2.27753C, SAL : 34.63932 PSU, DO : 3.80887 mg/L [21:47:53] briankennedy leaves the room [21:49:07] HOL [21:49:41] can see the clear trail behind it [21:51:11] good point TIm [21:51:21] trail much wider than its body [21:51:44] LAT :-6.49129, LON : -173.58256, DEPTH : 1993.6045m, TEMP : 2.28273C, SAL : 34.63343 PSU, DO : 3.69249 mg/L [21:51:45] wiggly back and forth- zigzag :-) [21:51:50] yes! [21:51:56] large, bamboo [21:51:59] mostly dead? [21:52:17] nevermind, very much alive [21:53:44] bambonodal brancher with thin skin, Jasonisis? 2 yellow crinoids, 2 ophiocanthid ophiuroids on bare skeleton [21:54:00] very sparsely branched [21:54:15] very tall [21:54:29] not Jasonisis by shape of polyps [21:54:44] would be up for having a branch collected [21:55:48] we aren't making very good way at the moment. We've been troubled by squalls this morning. We may have to defer the collection for a different colony [21:56:07] we really need to arrive at the summit with time to spare [21:56:22] roger that [21:56:44] LAT :-6.49132, LON : -173.58256, DEPTH : 1991.0532m, TEMP : 2.27109C, SAL : 34.63621 PSU, DO : 3.71026 mg/L [21:56:56] we seem pretty deep. what is summit depth? [21:57:33] ~~1800m [21:57:37] 1810 [21:57:43] thanks [22:01:45] LAT :-6.49132, LON : -173.58255, DEPTH : 1985.9270m, TEMP : 2.26968C, SAL : 34.63636 PSU, DO : 3.77415 mg/L [22:03:41] how much time left in the dive? [22:04:37] about 200 minutes [22:05:11] zoantid going to kill octocoral.. [22:05:26] coralliid with zoanthid [22:06:11] and Asteroschematid associate [22:06:45] LAT :-6.49129, LON : -173.58246, DEPTH : 1982.6815m, TEMP : 2.26211C, SAL : 34.63454 PSU, DO : 3.69187 mg/L [22:09:04] This looks like possibly the same sp of coraliid, but without zoanthid [22:09:10] and Asteroschematid associate [22:09:44] this definitely a big old one [22:10:11] Lasers on base please [22:10:18] perfect thanks [22:10:46] I think there might be another colony on the left, with zoanthids [22:11:01] what is that coral on the right side near the bottom? [22:11:23] had two 90 deg truns in the axis [22:11:46] LAT :-6.49131, LON : -173.58243, DEPTH : 1977.0971m, TEMP : 2.30471C, SAL : 34.63361 PSU, DO : 3.81287 mg/L [22:12:34] I also feel more Pargorgiid-like than Corallid [22:12:37] that one is a more typical P coralloides looking colony with zoanthid with the awful name [22:13:11] agree Asako and Les [22:14:33] would love a sample of that to confirm IDs [22:14:40] more corals on the left side that the right... current direction? [22:16:08] We've seen alot of P. coralloides. it seems widely distributed on this smt chain [22:16:47] LAT :-6.49138, LON : -173.58224, DEPTH : 1966.3435m, TEMP : 2.30843C, SAL : 34.63465 PSU, DO : 3.67874 mg/L [22:17:10] It was described by Bayer from somewhere in this neighborhood, maybe more to the west [22:18:00] this is a Coralliid [22:18:35] I was thinking that due to the presence of the ophi it was a Paragorgia as well [22:18:55] There are other Paragorgia species (similar morph to coralloides) in the S hemisphere, also with zoanthids [22:19:11] thanks Santiago... [22:19:32] Candidella gigantea? [22:20:12] I think so Les [22:20:22] seen P kaupeka in the Kermadecs, impossible to tell species from images at this point [22:21:47] LAT :-6.49135, LON : -173.58208, DEPTH : 1963.5014m, TEMP : 2.29866C, SAL : 34.63414 PSU, DO : 3.74541 mg/L [22:25:04] This is a Paragorgiid [22:25:28] agree [22:26:00] different morph of ophiuroid associate [22:26:48] LAT :-6.49131, LON : -173.58204, DEPTH : 1963.0750m, TEMP : 2.31487C, SAL : 34.63321 PSU, DO : 3.77652 mg/L [22:27:03] nice bush below that P [22:28:12] black coral? if so very strange [22:29:02] That's my guess Les [22:31:48] LAT :-6.49140, LON : -173.58210, DEPTH : 1951.0459m, TEMP : 2.31459C, SAL : 34.63246 PSU, DO : 3.65893 mg/L [22:32:17] More large stalked crinoids and possibly Coralliid fans [22:34:35] what is that material on the branch? [22:35:18] gonads in those polyps? [22:36:49] LAT :-6.49149, LON : -173.58197, DEPTH : 1942.4290m, TEMP : 2.33520C, SAL : 34.62998 PSU, DO : 3.61312 mg/L [22:36:52] ophiuoids [22:37:07] looked really fluffy and continuous @Les [22:37:34] This looks like Paragorgiid to me [22:37:41] can't see if there are hooks on the arms, but these look like asteroschemids [22:37:43] different sp [22:37:44] can we look at the chryso next to this colony? [22:37:56] with different OPH morphs [22:38:26] agree Tim [22:40:01] did not see any associates on the crinoid feathers.... [22:40:25] @santiago- thank you. my feed is breaking a little so it's helpful to have more eyes [22:41:13] there are at least 2 sp of paragorgiids with different 2-3 morphs of asteroschemids [22:41:27] plus coralliid fans with asteroschemids [22:41:36] peterauster leaves the room [22:41:50] LAT :-6.49153, LON : -173.58198, DEPTH : 1939.8974m, TEMP : 2.33362C, SAL : 34.63223 PSU, DO : 3.64535 mg/L [22:44:35] possible coralliid colony on left with yellow crinoids [22:45:47] santiagoherrera leaves the room [22:46:10] smooth... kinda looks spongy. If a coral I'd guess plexaurid [22:46:27] many small primnoid colonies with ophiacanthid associates [22:46:32] or paragorgiid [22:46:34] The top cut surface looked fibrous like spicules [22:46:50] LAT :-6.49153, LON : -173.58195, DEPTH : 1931.7670m, TEMP : 2.33994C, SAL : 34.63325 PSU, DO : 3.70685 mg/L [22:47:01] saw a large one a few meters deeper [22:50:16] leswatling leaves the room [22:50:36] scottfrance leaves the room [22:51:19] leaving for a bit - if there is an opportunity to collect a rock (doubtful, I know), it would be great :-) [22:51:51] LAT :-6.49152, LON : -173.58186, DEPTH : 1923.1208m, TEMP : 2.32120C, SAL : 34.63361 PSU, DO : 3.74761 mg/L [22:52:21] was it something I said...? (booted from the chatroom) [22:52:39] Agree Steve: possible young Bathypathes alternata [22:53:33] Hey! Bamboo I4 clade! [22:54:15] Yes, this is young stage of candelabra [22:54:20] So another young colony [22:54:30] Great stuff. [22:56:38] nickpawlenko leaves the room [22:56:51] LAT :-6.49158, LON : -173.58188, DEPTH : 1914.3046m, TEMP : 2.32007C, SAL : 34.63393 PSU, DO : 3.67805 mg/L [22:57:04] I think they are primnoid.. [22:57:43] bamboo coral on left [23:01:31] high abundance of small octocorals [23:01:38] likely more of those primnoids [23:01:43] how about to collect one of these abundant small Primnoids? [23:01:52] LAT :-6.49160, LON : -173.58179, DEPTH : 1907.9156m, TEMP : 2.31911C, SAL : 34.63181 PSU, DO : 3.72029 mg/L [23:02:06] Chrysogorgia [23:02:07] Id support one of those collections [23:02:37] I would vote for a Paragorgiid/associate collection, if possible [23:02:52] Would be interesting to see what happens to these colonies when the branch tip growth reaches the other side of the crack. [23:03:36] Primnoids may be all new recruits? [23:04:20] That must have been one massive recruitment event! [23:05:07] white squat lobster on bare branch [23:06:13] bamboo? totally overgrown by ZOA [23:06:52] LAT :-6.49157, LON : -173.58171, DEPTH : 1904.0089m, TEMP : 2.34293C, SAL : 34.63012 PSU, DO : 3.72435 mg/L [23:08:35] nickpawlenko leaves the room [23:08:38] Iridogorgia [23:09:21] no apparent associates on irridogorgia (I. magna.) this dive [23:09:45] I missed the potential collection target. What is proposed? [23:09:47] We are thinking about a double collection. Paragorgia and abundant primnoid [23:11:53] LAT :-6.49158, LON : -173.58172, DEPTH : 1901.8645m, TEMP : 2.33565C, SAL : 34.63195 PSU, DO : 3.65097 mg/L [23:13:06] Paragorgia w/ zoanthids. and maybe one of these abundant primnoids (candidella sp?) [23:13:21] Anyone have comments? [23:14:06] yes please [23:14:11] just checking my records [23:14:12] Yes, collection is fine with me. Candidella and Paragorgia would be great.... [23:14:17] Not sure how it differs from other Paragorgia + zoa, but would be a good collection to get several different taxa. [23:14:25] agree [23:14:38] this is likely the deepest record of Paragorgia in the SP [23:14:44] agree [23:14:52] Is this different from Paragorgia D2_DIVE03_SPEC01BIO collected at very similar depth? [23:15:26] D2_DIVE03_SPEC01BIO was collected from 1841 m. [23:15:46] That on edid not have zoanthids, I think. [23:16:17] really curious to see if this could be related to the Paragorgiids down from NZ [23:16:25] yes Scott, this looks very different [23:16:27] I do think its different [23:16:33] Copy. [23:16:43] Yellow polyps on the previous specimen you mentioned. Also, polpys were on one side [23:16:47] correct, no zoanthids on that one [23:16:54] LAT :-6.49154, LON : -173.58163, DEPTH : 1903.0383m, TEMP : 2.32385C, SAL : 34.64142 PSU, DO : 3.79186 mg/L [23:16:59] agree Steve [23:17:11] All the Paragorgia I have seen that are overgrown with yellow zoanthids all look the same to me! [23:17:15] nice cut! [23:17:37] Do you think the central disc of the oph made it? [23:17:48] in the collection so far? [23:17:49] @scott I have documented at least 3 different species in the Pacific, need to publish :) [23:18:48] @Santiago: you do! If only we didn't have so many other demands on our time! :-) [23:19:12] At least in North Atlantic I think it was always the same species that had the XZOA overgrowth... [23:19:27] @scott that's right! [23:19:36] Not sure on the central disc for OPH assoc. [23:20:03] the western S Pacific seems to be a hotspot for diversity in this family [23:20:07] @DSantiago: Paragorgia coralloides in NAtl, I think. [23:20:19] correct [23:20:34] @Santiago: I'll bet we find that pattern for many families. [23:21:01] @scott agree [23:21:10] D2_DIVE18_SPEC01BIO [23:21:40] Great sample, thanks guys! [23:21:54] LAT :-6.49161, LON : -173.58170, DEPTH : 1902.0775m, TEMP : 2.32278C, SAL : 34.63148 PSU, DO : 3.72109 mg/L [23:21:57] @tim hope the central part of the OPH made it [23:22:56] me too [23:23:26] Would give a real reference for the video observations [23:23:41] starting to feel a sun fade coming on... [23:23:58] still another 20 mins [23:24:00] until sunfade [23:25:09] Yes, this would be a fantastic collection to get. [23:25:33] agree [23:26:55] LAT :-6.49159, LON : -173.58172, DEPTH : 1898.7424m, TEMP : 2.34214C, SAL : 34.63190 PSU, DO : 3.65166 mg/L [23:27:22] seeing another white Munidopsis on the rock/seafloor [23:28:00] copied @Tim [23:31:31] thank you [23:31:41] nice view of the "fallen" ophiuroids [23:31:55] LAT :-6.49158, LON : -173.58165, DEPTH : 1899.4787m, TEMP : 2.32459C, SAL : 34.63191 PSU, DO : 3.81806 mg/L [23:32:42] any interest on zooming on the freshly fallen base stump? Its definitely not plexauridae [23:33:33] Yes, zoom would be great. 2 oph morphs. down there [23:34:00] ophioplinthaca/ophiocantha morph in the collection... [23:34:01] By the way, I think most of you known me well enough to know that if I had my preference I would want to collect a fragment of every species of octocoral (and black coral) encountered. So, my questions when asked about collections are to ensure we are making the best use of the limited collections we are allowed. As I say, I think you all know that, but I thought perhaps I may have come off as a nay-sayer there earlier. [23:35:46] I feel like we are in the same boat- would want to collect representatives of everything. Your intent rings true Scott. Always good I think to question priorities and try to reach consensus before sampling. [23:36:09] Thanks Tim. [23:36:56] LAT :-6.49160, LON : -173.58159, DEPTH : 1899.5306m, TEMP : 2.32826C, SAL : 34.63710 PSU, DO : 3.80042 mg/L [23:37:15] totally agree [23:37:49] Great. I would hate to think someone thinks I am picking on them. [23:39:19] cue the octopus....really feeling sun fade now.... [23:39:30] about 8 mins to sunfade [23:39:39] scott: stop picking on me :) [23:40:11] Except Amanda. [23:40:16] ;-) [23:40:22] :) [23:40:37] love those red stalked crinoids [23:40:40] Cause she is battle-scarred and can take it. [23:40:58] scott: that's right, i'm small, but tough [23:41:17] Iridogorgia [23:41:56] LAT :-6.49157, LON : -173.58159, DEPTH : 1896.4591m, TEMP : 2.31928C, SAL : 34.63306 PSU, DO : 3.72465 mg/L [23:43:13] so, is this Synaphobranchidae or not? [23:43:41] not clear [23:43:56] Thank you Steve. just wanted to know for Seascribe [23:44:55] Wait Amanda. Were you describing yourself there...? Small in stature but... [23:46:10] scott: short, as in, not tall, [23:46:30] many commatulid crinoids on this dead coral stalk [23:46:40] as well as on outcrop [23:46:57] LAT :-6.49151, LON : -173.58153, DEPTH : 1897.0191m, TEMP : 2.28731C, SAL : 34.63535 PSU, DO : 3.70403 mg/L [23:47:26] @Amanda: of course! You are a giant in the field. I did not mean to imply otherwise. [23:47:59] scott: oh dear, ur making me blush now [23:48:09] other one is alive? [23:48:22] I'm afraid the sun fade will come at the moment.... [23:49:00] echinoderm tree.. [23:49:21] one on left looks like a bamboo? really strange [23:49:27] Collect the stalk with live tissue during sun fade if it cannot be ID'd? [23:49:38] agree to collect [23:49:49] just my openion before sun fade [23:49:50] Paragorgia! [23:50:29] WHAT A BEAUTY [23:50:36] Well, whoever had paragorgiid in the "stalk" pool is a winner! [23:50:51] sorry, if it is same paragorgia which we already collected, ignore my previous comment for the collection [23:50:56] Oh geez, that sun fade is coming... [23:51:04] stunning!!!! [23:51:06] amandademopoulos leaves the room [23:51:06] katharineweathers leaves the room [23:51:06] stevenauscavitch leaves the room [23:51:06] chat-admin leaves the room [23:51:18] and... sun fade. [23:51:49] yes Scott, large stalks are Paragorgiids [23:52:01] sun fade... [23:52:04] well, it is a nice image to ride the sunfade [23:52:17] True dat Santiago [23:52:18] that paragorgiid was ~~2x2m! [23:52:39] many ophiuroids on it too [23:52:58] agree Santiago. my screen frozen with beautiful Paragorgia image [23:58:16] nicolemorgan leaves the room