[00:03:31] conference line back [00:03:49] and video back! [00:04:01] scottfrance leaves the room [00:04:14] LAT :0.80367, LON : -176.67435, DEPTH : 2279.5903m, TEMP : 1.99187C, SAL : 34.65385 PSU, DO : 3.59939 mg/L [00:04:23] andreaquattrini leaves the room [00:04:24] LAT :0.80361, LON : -176.67432, DEPTH : 2278.8717m, TEMP : 1.99958C, SAL : 34.65405 PSU, DO : 3.46783 mg/L [00:04:27] LAT :0.80364, LON : -176.67437, DEPTH : 2272.1719m, TEMP : 2.03170C, SAL : 34.65127 PSU, DO : 3.53856 mg/L [00:06:22] LAT :0.80372, LON : -176.67422, DEPTH : 2265.7437m, TEMP : 2.04242C, SAL : 34.65104 PSU, DO : 3.51177 mg/L [00:06:36] peterauster leaves the room [00:07:08] amandademopoulos leaves the room [00:07:15] back online here [00:08:52] My computer chose to crash at the same time as the sun shadow...:-( [00:09:07] This looks different from the D2 clade we saw earlier. [00:10:29] your computer has sun shadow detect option Scott ;-) [00:11:03] Another Walteria. [00:11:22] LAT :0.80378, LON : -176.67422, DEPTH : 2264.9458m, TEMP : 2.08234C, SAL : 34.64974 PSU, DO : 3.46393 mg/L [00:12:06] is that dead sponge? [00:12:17] @Asako: It has a lets-play-tricks-on-Scott-to-see-how-angry-we-can-make-him option. It deploys that option a lot. [00:12:27] yes dead [00:12:58] @Steve: looking back through some images in my database, I retract my previous statement. That last bamboo fan may have been a D2 clade. [00:13:43] @Scott: you don't have to check box on for those option!:P [00:13:44] @Scott Good to know! I'm learning my bamboo clades one at a time! [00:14:34] @Asako: :-) [00:15:41] stevenauscavitch leaves the room [00:16:14] fair bit of snow in the water for this depth [00:16:22] LAT :0.80389, LON : -176.67428, DEPTH : 2252.4959m, TEMP : 2.07095C, SAL : 34.64895 PSU, DO : 3.44637 mg/L [00:20:12] Baby bamboo... [00:20:20] Or at least a youngster [00:21:20] The sun fade crashed our video feed of camera one. I'm looking at it on my laptop, but it's difficult to toggle between it, the chatroom, and SeaScribe [00:21:23] LAT :0.80403, LON : -176.67428, DEPTH : 2245.4936m, TEMP : 2.08846C, SAL : 34.64878 PSU, DO : 3.59238 mg/L [00:22:35] @Bruce: I had to restart the video as well (it is playing on a separate laptop that did not carsh) [00:22:36] @Bruce: I always do that! [00:23:27] I didn't even know Steve was on the dive today! [00:23:36] he has been muted that long [00:23:49] Quality, not quantity, of biomass! [00:24:14] scott-shhhh [00:24:55] D'Oh! [00:25:43] OMG--so totally cool! I'm getting a pinched nerve in my neck from hunching over my little computer screen!!! [00:25:48] I wonder if it engulfed a prey item near the base...? [00:26:23] LAT :0.80393, LON : -176.67436, DEPTH : 2239.5933m, TEMP : 2.09316C, SAL : 34.64526 PSU, DO : 3.44352 mg/L [00:26:36] Nope. Another polychaete on the "outside" [00:27:02] briankennedy leaves the room [00:28:10] jelly!!!!! [00:28:12] From this distance it looks like a scleraxonian skeleton... [00:28:34] slightly pink-ish [00:28:45] Okay Dhugal: time for an ID! [00:29:11] wow. I hope there is a good dorsal shot of that jelly. The video jumped when I though I might be able to see it [00:30:01] Looked like a Trachymedusa, maybe a rhopalonematid but I would need to see the gonad placement on the radial canals.. [00:30:45] If you see any more then please try and get another good shot m(..)m [00:31:24] LAT :0.80402, LON : -176.67447, DEPTH : 2229.3481m, TEMP : 2.12070C, SAL : 34.64658 PSU, DO : 3.47513 mg/L [00:31:37] Looks like a Paragorgiid [00:31:53] I agree - that last skeleton was likely a dead paragorgiid. [00:32:48] asteroschemid ophiuroid [00:33:04] new branch... [00:33:26] stroniferous on rock? [00:33:41] used to use arm to disc ratio as a diagnostic character in asteroschemids [00:35:13] yes they are [00:35:18] from that view and pretending I had a microscope looking at the arrangemnt of ossicles on the aboral side, looked like they were granule shaped- would be Ophiocreas.... [00:35:40] @Tim: I think the larger asteroschematids are pretty typical for paragorgiids... agree? [00:36:22] Cool stoloniferous octo... [00:36:26] LAT :0.80402, LON : -176.67443, DEPTH : 2228.8400m, TEMP : 2.06573C, SAL : 34.65085 PSU, DO : 3.52506 mg/L [00:36:48] Paragorgids either have a circus of small smooth ophiuroids on them or a single larger asteroschematid, like Paramuricea [00:37:05] Geologists are not interested in to collect rock here? [00:37:14] what we saw was not atipical for a fan of that size. [00:37:19] Primnoid? [00:37:23] Yup. [00:37:26] primnoid with ophiocanthids [00:37:52] were these the same ophs in the sponges? [00:38:36] Polyps facing downward... Maybe a Narella [00:39:29] wow nice coral skyline [00:40:44] I think another Narella but with polyps less contracted [00:40:53] So they aren't curled downward yet [00:40:56] no associates on this one. [00:41:03] why? [00:41:16] tim: too many other options :) [00:41:25] LAT :0.80413, LON : -176.67445, DEPTH : 2228.5881m, TEMP : 2.05405C, SAL : 34.65016 PSU, DO : 3.51147 mg/L [00:41:36] Yes both narella, my guess too [00:41:40] brittle star may know species... [00:41:41] was that a suicidal ophiuroid again? [00:42:12] Bamboo coral [00:42:25] classic ophiocanthid [00:42:40] Internodal [00:42:57] D2 clade "Eknomisis" [00:46:25] LAT :0.80418, LON : -176.67439, DEPTH : 2225.8398m, TEMP : 2.11447C, SAL : 34.64639 PSU, DO : 3.38159 mg/L [00:46:55] Possible hydroid Solanderia [00:47:13] The whole colony IS a hydroid [00:47:56] Annelid on right [00:48:19] @Scott: it is any possiblity that this is the skeleton of "Paragorgia-like" colony yesterday? [00:49:14] sorry it was not yesterday.. [00:49:19] Check out: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55f7ccffe4b025e604f06e66/55f7de5fe4b0d9c41f12ecfb/55fe3142e4b0c9966d10ed96/1444811736364/Zintzen_photography-70.jpg?format=1000w [00:49:46] Wow scott. looks spot on. [00:49:59] This is better: https://www.niwa.co.nz/blogs/critteroftheweek/196 [00:50:13] chirostylid on coral to the right [00:50:29] wow! [00:50:40] I thought chrysogorgiid [00:50:43] wowza [00:50:46] sample? [00:50:50] I suggest collecting a branchlet [00:50:54] 30min left [00:51:18] agree with collection! [00:51:26] LAT :0.80410, LON : -176.67431, DEPTH : 2224.7183m, TEMP : 2.12314C, SAL : 34.64791 PSU, DO : 3.48852 mg/L [00:51:31] any associates??? [00:51:34] But if it is going to eat up the rest of the time... [00:51:36] not seeing any [00:51:40] I suppose this could be dead skeleton earlier [00:51:47] ...then maybe better to see more of hwat was turning into something amazing [00:52:03] where are the chriostylids? [00:52:07] shrimp? [00:52:14] what the **** is that? [00:52:28] should be an "older" colony, no? [00:52:37] REALLY old [00:52:43] colony of WHAT? [00:53:14] chysogorgid, yes, but... [00:53:17] another colony [00:53:24] wow [00:53:39] thinking.... [00:54:15] Looks like a chrysogorgiid [00:54:18] scan or sample? we have one solid sample collection time block remaining. I think surveying could also be valuable. Lots of diversity here... [00:54:19] wow. don't know this one [00:55:23] do you think we can collect with this associate? [00:55:28] i dunno, those giant chysogorgids are pretty special... [00:55:54] Of course, torn between sampling and scanning. I'll bet that chrysogorgiid was something new though. [00:56:06] agreed [00:56:10] spines along the cephal margin, and such thick upper arm segments. Wow. [00:56:19] what was the crab? Tim? [00:56:26] LAT :0.80415, LON : -176.67434, DEPTH : 2221.1894m, TEMP : 2.12807C, SAL : 34.64560 PSU, DO : 3.46870 mg/L [00:56:35] Just means we need another dive at 2200 meters in this region! :-) [00:56:42] i thought it was longer. might need to keep moving... [00:56:47] scott: rog [00:56:50] @scott - agreed again [00:56:58] agree Scott! [00:57:03] Y'all are so agreeable today! :-) [00:57:11] look at those giant colonies in the background! [00:57:13] agreed [00:57:38] amazing spot. nice find, guys! [00:57:44] Great area! [00:58:19] yes....I thought is in the Eumunididae, but Chirostylid, I think. Looked like Pseudomunida with really thickly spined and thick arms with spines along the carapace margin. Staring a framegrab. My new screensaver. [00:58:20] Mary might want a close-up of one of the Walteria's if you can see any shrimp in them. [00:59:01] Yes, move on up....forego the shrimp close-up :-) [01:00:04] Macrouridae, couldn't see enough to identify to genus. Maybe a Kumba? [01:00:07] Is this a bamboo? Yes - a Jasonisis or Orstomisis [01:00:12] that crab looked like a galatheid [01:00:31] good surprise:) [01:01:27] LAT :0.80431, LON : -176.67414, DEPTH : 2216.7693m, TEMP : 2.12557C, SAL : 34.64530 PSU, DO : 3.44756 mg/L [01:02:38] barnacle on the tip of this one where there is dead skeleton, one crinoid [01:02:53] It is reaching out to the manipulator as if it is saying "Take me with you." [01:03:16] briankennedy leaves the room [01:04:40] "take me to the deck" [01:05:05] I wish! We're approaching the saddest hour of the day [01:05:19] Macrouridae, Coryphaenoides species [01:06:02] We never got our Internet 1 feed of camera 1 back, so I'm looking at the Youtube feed with at least a 20 second delay [01:06:05] If ya'll want to do another dive in this depth range it would be a good idea to note that in the post dive call. [01:06:27] LAT :0.80424, LON : -176.67419, DEPTH : 2214.8721m, TEMP : 2.08160C, SAL : 34.64531 PSU, DO : 3.54563 mg/L [01:06:33] Duly noted Steve [01:06:58] classic ophiuroid type, abundance and position on this chrysogorgid [01:07:35] Solendaria again? [01:07:43] Nope. [01:08:07] primnoid? [01:08:15] Candidella [01:08:28] really? such tight branching... [01:08:41] old colony [01:08:53] No, a freakin' old colony! [01:09:09] Paramuricid? [01:09:16] also probably not C imbricata but another species [01:09:18] 70 MYO seamount... [01:09:27] I cant believe this wonderful view! [01:09:37] briankennedy leaves the room [01:09:44] Overgrown Paragorgiid! [01:09:48] White morph [01:09:51] Paragorgia with zoanthds [01:10:04] still living with all those zoanthids. wow [01:10:10] @Erik: with 20 mya corals? :-) [01:10:11] agree@Scott [01:10:14] lol [01:10:41] i would believe > 1000 [01:10:45] have called this asteroscema morph 2 in the Atlantic...almost identical....need more time here! [01:10:59] at this depth.... [01:11:05] and the size of those colonies [01:11:12] It looks from camera 3 that we are just getting to the crest of the ridge. Is that your impression on board? [01:11:28] LAT :0.80421, LON : -176.67414, DEPTH : 2215.2081m, TEMP : 2.05966C, SAL : 34.64772 PSU, DO : 3.46528 mg/L [01:11:47] yes this is the crest on hypack [01:12:15] barely making WP1 [01:14:46] That's all folks! What an ending [01:14:57] amandademopoulos leaves the room [01:15:05] Awesome stuff. Too bad it was at the end. [01:15:16] like the finale of a fireworks display. Nicely planned. [01:15:24] it was really great dive! I want to start now. [01:15:30] Although if we had seen it earlier it still may have been the end because we would have spent so much time! [01:16:25] leswatling leaves the room [01:16:28] EX1703_DIVE09 Vehicles Ascending [01:16:29] This was a beautiful dive! Thank you so much team! [01:16:30] LAT :0.80427, LON : -176.67419, DEPTH : 2201.0331m, TEMP : 2.12246C, SAL : 34.64508 PSU, DO : 3.40208 mg/L [01:16:36] It was a very interesting dive. Nice to see large macrourids again. I wish that my camera 1 feed hadn't crashed. I hope its back for tomorrow (I have to talk to IT). [01:16:39] Thank you very much for the fantastic dive. see you! [01:16:45] nolanbarrett leaves the room [01:16:50] oooh, now the interesting stuff begins ;-) [01:17:02] asakomatsumoto leaves the room [01:17:09] @Dhugal: haha Different strokes... [01:17:41] the effect of topography on the corals was SO pronounced! [01:18:36] kevinkocot leaves the room [01:19:53] amandademopoulos leaves the room [01:19:53] stevenauscavitch leaves the room [01:21:29] LAT :0.80443, LON : -176.67478, DEPTH : 2132.6619m, TEMP : 2.15502C, SAL : 34.64377 PSU, DO : 3.40935 mg/L [01:22:12] erikcordes leaves the room [01:26:30] LAT :0.80462, LON : -176.67475, DEPTH : 1981.9684m, TEMP : 2.28703C, SAL : 34.63786 PSU, DO : 3.27697 mg/L [01:27:32] There is a LOT of marine snow in the water for such an oligotrophic surface layer... [01:29:12] shirleypomponi leaves the room [01:31:30] LAT :0.80463, LON : -176.67466, DEPTH : 1832.4046m, TEMP : 2.46745C, SAL : 34.63030 PSU, DO : 3.14262 mg/L [01:34:28] chaetognath [01:34:41] brucemundy leaves the room [01:36:31] LAT :0.80460, LON : -176.67464, DEPTH : 1682.2529m, TEMP : 2.53597C, SAL : 34.62402 PSU, DO : 3.09548 mg/L [01:41:31] LAT :0.80452, LON : -176.67461, DEPTH : 1534.3990m, TEMP : 2.85418C, SAL : 34.60728 PSU, DO : 3.02196 mg/L [01:44:57] briankennedy leaves the room [01:46:32] LAT :0.80440, LON : -176.67478, DEPTH : 1382.5666m, TEMP : 3.28312C, SAL : 34.59077 PSU, DO : 2.75677 mg/L [01:49:28] unfortunately I have to leave now for a meeting in Tokyo... Looking forward to seeing the video at a later date though. Thanks for the dive! [01:49:47] dhugallindsay leaves the room [01:51:32] LAT :0.80437, LON : -176.67464, DEPTH : 1229.6574m, TEMP : 3.77205C, SAL : 34.57464 PSU, DO : 2.52754 mg/L [01:56:33] LAT :0.80443, LON : -176.67465, DEPTH : 1075.8510m, TEMP : 4.44726C, SAL : 34.55496 PSU, DO : 2.55398 mg/L [01:59:27] briankennedy leaves the room [02:01:17] nataliesummers leaves the room [02:01:34] LAT :0.80461, LON : -176.67461, DEPTH : 920.3893m, TEMP : 5.11815C, SAL : 34.54072 PSU, DO : 2.67972 mg/L [02:06:16] be back on the line in just a minute [02:06:34] LAT :0.80472, LON : -176.67458, DEPTH : 764.8869m, TEMP : 5.65176C, SAL : 34.54275 PSU, DO : 2.60448 mg/L [02:11:35] LAT :0.80445, LON : -176.67423, DEPTH : 609.5569m, TEMP : 6.58596C, SAL : 34.55725 PSU, DO : 2.12354 mg/L [02:16:35] LAT :0.80454, LON : -176.67333, DEPTH : 457.3149m, TEMP : 8.48016C, SAL : 34.61921 PSU, DO : 1.84324 mg/L [02:21:36] LAT :0.80497, LON : -176.67246, DEPTH : 304.8120m, TEMP : 11.28612C, SAL : 34.79056 PSU, DO : 2.99060 mg/L [02:26:36] LAT :0.80528, LON : -176.67119, DEPTH : 163.2673m, TEMP : 19.07653C, SAL : 35.15221 PSU, DO : 4.47181 mg/L [02:26:56] timothyshank leaves the room [02:27:01] stevenauscavitch leaves the room [02:31:37] LAT :0.80577, LON : -176.67049, DEPTH : 53.8796m, TEMP : 26.60824C, SAL : 35.12428 PSU, DO : 5.93291 mg/L [02:34:32] scottfrance leaves the room [02:36:38] LAT :0.80629, LON : -176.66989, DEPTH : 21.4509m, TEMP : 26.89092C, SAL : 35.14126 PSU, DO : 6.23256 mg/L [02:39:13] EX1703_DIVE09 Recovery Complete [02:51:40] briankennedy leaves the room [17:42:10] sea scribe link for dive 10 https://divelog.oceannetworks.ca/Dive?diveId=584 [17:54:00] predive test [17:56:35] amandademopoulos leaves the room [18:43:40] iscwatch2 leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [18:45:38] iscwatch2 leaves the room [18:50:57] EX1703_DIVE10 Rov Launch [19:01:24] EX1703_DIVE10 Vehicles in the Water [19:01:34] EX1703_DIVE10 Vehicles Descending [19:02:27] LAT :0.83552, LON : -176.62646, DEPTH : 16.0296m, TEMP : 99.00000C, SAL : 12.78029 PSU, DO : 78.97567 mg/L [19:07:28] LAT :0.83565, LON : -176.62695, DEPTH : 51.2005m, TEMP : 26.78216C, SAL : 35.15226 PSU, DO : 6.07802 mg/L [19:07:50] test [19:07:54] Good morning al [19:08:04] Who's Al? Good morning all! [19:08:19] Hey Tim! [19:11:21] Hey Deb! [19:12:28] LAT :0.83588, LON : -176.62681, DEPTH : 99.9453m, TEMP : 26.47344C, SAL : 35.20866 PSU, DO : 5.79788 mg/L [19:13:36] Are those seep/methane bubbles on stream 3? [19:14:57] it looks like the Atlantic seeps [19:15:06] I feel like I've seen that figure before :) [19:17:29] LAT :0.83586, LON : -176.62577, DEPTH : 189.7277m, TEMP : 13.90761C, SAL : 34.96022 PSU, DO : 4.49658 mg/L [19:17:39] I'm just on computer, not on call. [19:20:46] morning everyone-i'll try to be more serious-just had some technical difficulties with speaking [19:20:56] Hi all. A sparkling day for a dive! At least here in Connecitcut ... [19:22:35] LAT :0.83550, LON : -176.62568, DEPTH : 323.4098m, TEMP : 10.91906C, SAL : 34.76951 PSU, DO : 2.76837 mg/L [19:22:37] @Amanda, I enjoyed the laughing, personally! [19:23:13] thanks Deb-sort of my default state of mind, usually laughing at myself [19:24:22] Jill: yes, just the MB from the monitor -old familiar data from norfolk [19:25:25] For those of you on yesterday's dive, I hear I missed interesting geology - true? [19:26:42] Re-evaluation of the shark seen earlier on descent - an oceanic whitetip, Charcharhinus longimanus [19:27:30] LAT :0.83551, LON : -176.62559, DEPTH : 467.9523m, TEMP : 8.66005C, SAL : 34.64460 PSU, DO : 2.43252 mg/L [19:32:08] jillbourque leaves the room [19:32:30] LAT :0.83503, LON : -176.62535, DEPTH : 545.6577m, TEMP : 6.86522C, SAL : 34.56301 PSU, DO : 2.14518 mg/L [19:34:12] bottom in sight [19:35:22] lots of shrimp today!! [19:35:46] Good morning all [19:36:00] Good morning asako [19:36:15] given the depth (and light), we may have shrimp with us all day.... [19:36:35] EX1703_DIVE10 Vehicles on Bottom [19:37:21] Hi Steve [19:37:21] small fish here too [19:37:31] LAT :0.83508, LON : -176.62540, DEPTH : 587.5627m, TEMP : 6.65284C, SAL : 34.56032 PSU, DO : 2.08637 mg/L [19:37:37] Lots of shrimp, other crustaceans, and little fish in this area. [19:38:18] The fish that volunteered for its closeup was a lanternfish (Myctophidae) [19:41:23] Bruce, did you see the Coelorinchus a minute ago, either tokiensis or longisnozzus? [19:42:31] LAT :0.83502, LON : -176.62540, DEPTH : 585.2763m, TEMP : 6.77381C, SAL : 34.56648 PSU, DO : 2.14294 mg/L [19:43:14] chris: longisnozzus? ru trying to make us laugh? [19:44:53] @Chris - missed it. glad to get the spelling of longisnozzus, though. The species could also be Coelorinchus osipullus McMillan & Iwamoto 2009, known from seamounts of Loyalty and Norfolk ridges between New Caledonia and New Zealand [19:47:32] LAT :0.83497, LON : -176.62541, DEPTH : 585.0255m, TEMP : 6.78376C, SAL : 34.56205 PSU, DO : 2.19094 mg/L [19:51:09] brucemundy leaves the room [19:51:58] can those toad fish actually swim? [19:52:33] LAT :0.83501, LON : -176.62542, DEPTH : 588.2825m, TEMP : 6.74616C, SAL : 34.55024 PSU, DO : 2.13793 mg/L [19:54:26] @Tim yea they can swim. burst swimming usually from a "squatting" position [19:54:28] looked like a Lebbeus shrimp. Only a quick look. [19:57:07] Neocyttus cf. acanthorhynchus [19:57:33] LAT :0.83496, LON : -176.62545, DEPTH : 588.1094m, TEMP : 6.67357C, SAL : 34.56046 PSU, DO : 2.17200 mg/L [19:58:53] looked like a galatheid next to and ophiuroid on that corralium coral [20:00:48] meaty arm asteroschematid oph, chirostylid crab large eyes, small glass shrimp, [20:00:56] on this yellow coral [20:02:16] Paracis [20:02:34] LAT :0.83499, LON : -176.62543, DEPTH : 589.2268m, TEMP : 6.70827C, SAL : 34.56965 PSU, DO : 2.13358 mg/L [20:03:06] large # of ophiocanthid ophs, one gastropod, great view of aboral and oral disk on ophs. [20:07:06] heterocarpus shrimp [20:07:34] LAT :0.83499, LON : -176.62540, DEPTH : 583.0539m, TEMP : 6.78234C, SAL : 34.56071 PSU, DO : 2.15002 mg/L [20:07:39] Comment on the Chaunax seen earlier, based on a similar one seen at Swains Island earlier in the cruise. Could be C. cf. endeavouri, but definitely a member of the C. fimbriatus species group. [20:09:28] Lophiidae, goosefish, either Lophiomius or Lophiodes species [20:12:30] rock fish [20:12:35] LAT :0.83499, LON : -176.62540, DEPTH : 581.9081m, TEMP : 6.78134C, SAL : 34.56327 PSU, DO : 2.18477 mg/L [20:13:26] @Amanda, I got all excited that we were looking at a rock. Then I realized you were using it to find a seastar or something. So disappointed. :( [20:14:07] deb: i was looking at the rock :) just thought it was a sponge or something, oh well [20:14:53] Forgot to log the cynoglossid, tonguefish, seen briefly, earlier in the dive [20:15:18] Bruce: yes it was by the chaunax [20:17:11] Chaunax in the C. fimbiratus group, similar to C. endeavori [20:17:35] Very pretty medusa [20:17:37] LAT :0.83498, LON : -176.62538, DEPTH : 576.8475m, TEMP : 6.82761C, SAL : 34.56391 PSU, DO : 2.17210 mg/L [20:17:44] anyone ever see this? [20:17:53] Yes. [20:18:09] But I need to look up the name (if you are talking about the medusa) [20:19:20] Moridae, Physiculus species, a codling [20:21:32] was that a munida crab? just caught a last glimpse of it.... [20:22:05] some type of galatheid @Tim [20:22:15] thank you. [20:22:25] will mark it to go back and look. [20:22:36] LAT :0.83488, LON : -176.62531, DEPTH : 570.8534m, TEMP : 6.82745C, SAL : 34.56353 PSU, DO : 2.18406 mg/L [20:23:04] Lophiidae, Lophiomus or Lophioides [20:24:09] Cyclothone species (Gonostomatidae) swimming in water column. A vertically-migrating mesopelagic species. Maybe C. pallida [20:25:01] Spines, yes [20:25:57] Scallop-y looking [20:27:30] logged medusa as a narcomedusa, possibly a species in the genus Aegina. [20:27:36] LAT :0.83485, LON : -176.62530, DEPTH : 569.3630m, TEMP : 6.85439C, SAL : 34.55923 PSU, DO : 2.14471 mg/L [20:28:03] Ho wmany of these dead shells are recent vs incorporated into matrix of rock? [20:28:04] jillbourque leaves the room [20:28:21] trachymedusa - quick pass in front of the camera. [20:29:29] Macrouridae (Rattail):rattail or grenadier, possibly a Nezumia or Ventrifossa species [20:29:32] Lophiidae, Lophiomus or Lophioides species [20:30:34] Congridae, Gnathophis species [20:32:32] mikeford leaves the room [20:32:37] LAT :0.83492, LON : -176.62519, DEPTH : 566.2240m, TEMP : 6.84681C, SAL : 34.56505 PSU, DO : 2.17974 mg/L [20:34:49] Bembradium species, family Bembridae, order Scorpaeniformes (same order as the scorpionfish, but a different family) [20:37:04] @Andrea: took me a while (my sad memory), but I think that medusae was an Aegina [20:37:25] erikcordes leaves the room [20:37:25] Bembradium roseum, B. furici, and an undescribed species reported from New Caledonia, so several possibilities for the species of Bembradium [20:37:38] LAT :0.83487, LON : -176.62523, DEPTH : 561.3882m, TEMP : 6.84013C, SAL : 34.56395 PSU, DO : 2.15886 mg/L [20:38:49] Coelorinchus species in the C. tokiensis group (maybe C. osipullus or C. tokiensis) [affectionately called C. longisnozzus by Chris, the preferrred name ;) ] [20:39:30] @Scott thanks [20:42:38] LAT :0.83492, LON : -176.62527, DEPTH : 554.4787m, TEMP : 6.84282C, SAL : 34.56424 PSU, DO : 2.16017 mg/L [20:44:20] For the Gnathophis seen earlier, Gnathophis habenatus, Gnathophis neocaledoniensis, andGnathophis umbrellabius have been reported from New Caledonia. Gnathophis heterognathos has been found in Hawaii (reported as its junior synonym G. nystromi). Three other species were reported from the Nazca & Sala-y-Gomez ridges far to the east. [20:44:40] looks like a stylasterid from this view [20:45:59] but not live @Tim [20:46:01] tough call [20:46:02] very worn [20:46:06] yea not sure [20:47:26] christopherkelley leaves the room [20:47:30] Pleuronectiformes (Flatfish):Tonguefish, Cynoglossidae, probably a Symphurus species [20:47:39] LAT :0.83487, LON : -176.62523, DEPTH : 550.9896m, TEMP : 6.83503C, SAL : 34.56346 PSU, DO : 2.15209 mg/L [20:51:34] Scorpaenidae, scorpionfish, genus unidentified [20:52:39] LAT :0.83482, LON : -176.62527, DEPTH : 545.3781m, TEMP : 6.83924C, SAL : 34.56494 PSU, DO : 2.11363 mg/L [20:53:45] agree. Looks like a hydroid. [20:53:56] @Bruce I noticed branched fin rays in the pectoral. So that scorpaenid was not Pontinus. This reminds me of Idiastion. I think we saw it a few dives ago [20:54:31] @Bruce could also be Neomerinthe [20:55:09] @Andrea - Yes, I agree. I'm not keyed in to look at the pectoral rays. I need to do so. [20:56:27] I support collection. Primnoid maybe... [20:57:37] could we consider collecting the ophiuroid with it? [20:57:41] LAT :0.83478, LON : -176.62525, DEPTH : 545.0744m, TEMP : 6.83487C, SAL : 34.56512 PSU, DO : 2.15802 mg/L [20:59:21] Break time for the fish people while the coral is collected. Have to get up, stretch and move around. This is going to be a fishy dive. [21:02:41] LAT :0.83478, LON : -176.62522, DEPTH : 545.1800m, TEMP : 6.83745C, SAL : 34.56833 PSU, DO : 2.15124 mg/L [21:03:22] please leave some if you can [21:03:27] it will grow back [21:04:10] :( maybe a base [21:04:50] nice job! [21:04:54] @Erik, not sure know that... [21:05:51] we know it from the octocorals in the Gulf that we have revisited for multiple years after collecting [21:06:09] we have exact, repeat photographs from 6 consecutive years [21:06:30] that's interesting [21:07:08] which families? [21:07:23] Callogorgia and Paramuricea [21:07:33] thx [21:07:41] LAT :0.83481, LON : -176.62520, DEPTH : 545.2156m, TEMP : 6.85749C, SAL : 34.56021 PSU, DO : 2.10390 mg/L [21:10:10] D2_DIVE10_SPEC01BIO [21:11:03] thanks Amanda [21:11:12] :) [21:12:42] LAT :0.83481, LON : -176.62522, DEPTH : 542.8938m, TEMP : 6.83603C, SAL : 34.56501 PSU, DO : 2.13637 mg/L [21:13:09] erikcordes leaves the room [21:15:50] can't even guess the family on this fish [21:16:00] Not even the order! [21:16:56] bruce: i was wondering if it might be a juvenile form? [21:17:43] LAT :0.83481, LON : -176.62524, DEPTH : 539.6157m, TEMP : 6.84697C, SAL : 34.56347 PSU, DO : 2.13490 mg/L [21:17:46] I was thinking Bythididae ... but total kneejerk ... or just jerk [21:18:25] Sickly Swiftia? [21:18:58] squat lobster just above on left [21:19:34] looks like swiftia [21:19:39] Looks again like what we've been seeing the past few days... [21:19:44] @Peter - Bythitidae is my best guess too, because of the long dorsal and anal fins, and the distinct, separated caudal fin. I'll send an image off to Jorgen Nielsen, Peter Rask Moller, and Werner Schwarzhans. [21:22:43] LAT :0.83479, LON : -176.62516, DEPTH : 539.9666m, TEMP : 6.85649C, SAL : 34.56410 PSU, DO : 2.15211 mg/L [21:22:59] Cynoglossidae, probably the other Symphurus species, similar to Symphurus strictus [21:24:05] Corallium or Hemicorallium [21:24:47] @Scott, @ChrisK suggested Pleurocorallium too [21:25:16] deborahglickson leaves the room [21:27:17] @Steve: yup. In future I will simply write "coralliid!" :-) [21:27:44] LAT :0.83476, LON : -176.62517, DEPTH : 534.6244m, TEMP : 7.03035C, SAL : 34.56536 PSU, DO : 2.15883 mg/L [21:27:58] dragonet, Callionymidae, maybe a Synchiropus species (but perhaps in the related family Draconettidae). [21:28:58] @Bruce did you see a strong preopercle spine? I was going to suggest Draconettidae [21:29:22] small christylid on this yellow stony coral [21:30:56] leswatling leaves the room [21:31:46] so camera shy, this squat lobster [21:32:44] LAT :0.83477, LON : -176.62515, DEPTH : 527.9464m, TEMP : 7.04682C, SAL : 34.56953 PSU, DO : 2.22295 mg/L [21:33:31] christopherkelley leaves the room [21:34:06] Moridae, Physiculus species [21:36:28] @Andrea - I did see a strong preopercular spine. Thus, Draconettidae is likely. Centrodraco ornatus or Draconetta xenica are possibilities. [21:37:45] LAT :0.83467, LON : -176.62508, DEPTH : 520.6353m, TEMP : 7.01445C, SAL : 34.56884 PSU, DO : 2.20220 mg/L [21:37:51] Bembradium species, family Bembridae [21:40:46] Hoplostethus species, a roughy. Trachichthyidae. Dark membranes between the dorsal-fin spines suggest H. crassispinus. [21:42:10] Cook's shark, Echinorhinus cookei, family Echinorhinidae [21:42:46] LAT :0.83461, LON : -176.62511, DEPTH : 519.5034m, TEMP : 7.01314C, SAL : 34.56864 PSU, DO : 2.20081 mg/L [21:43:21] Solanderia? [21:43:50] Can't see the polyps clearly enough on my screen [21:44:39] scott-resembled solanderia, but now i've only seen this 3 times :) [21:44:47] Groupers sometime follow prickly shark, presumably to find disturbed prey, when they swim along precipitous features at Cocos Isl and Las Gemelas Seamount off Costa Rica. [21:46:18] soniarowley leaves the room [21:46:33] Chlorophthalmidae or Paraulopidae. Probably Paraulopidae, genus Paraulopus. relative of the greeneyes. [21:47:46] LAT :0.83457, LON : -176.62503, DEPTH : 509.1743m, TEMP : 7.02998C, SAL : 34.56638 PSU, DO : 2.18178 mg/L [21:48:56] Lophiidae, Lophiomus or Lophioides species (no word back from Hans Ho or John Caruso yeat about identification [21:49:03] nicolemorgan leaves the room [21:51:33] adriennecopeland leaves the room [21:52:46] LAT :0.83456, LON : -176.62492, DEPTH : 502.7394m, TEMP : 7.06632C, SAL : 34.56871 PSU, DO : 2.22494 mg/L [21:53:20] great view of this crab.... [21:53:25] michaelparke leaves the room [21:55:02] nataliesummers leaves the room [21:55:33] although I am not a geologist - this info may help: karst is the dissolution of a carbonate or other soluble rock - think limestone and sink holes [21:56:05] @Erin Thanks! [21:56:07] well, just gramed a frame of the big crab- going to label it as a lithodid for now based on carapace morphology [21:56:14] or the topography resulting from the dissolution [21:57:47] LAT :0.83448, LON : -176.62490, DEPTH : 495.4231m, TEMP : 7.22357C, SAL : 34.57469 PSU, DO : 2.26250 mg/L [21:58:59] Epigonus, family Epigonidae, maybe Epigonus atherinoides [22:00:37] goniasterid? [22:02:48] LAT :0.83443, LON : -176.62487, DEPTH : 491.1901m, TEMP : 7.28369C, SAL : 34.58557 PSU, DO : 2.23881 mg/L [22:03:11] pilot changeout [22:03:40] jillbourque leaves the room [22:03:56] Did anyone see the long swimming worm? [22:04:07] I think it settled right by the lasers [22:06:02] It looked like a siphonophore maybe? [22:06:26] Macrouridae (Rattail):maybe a Ventrifossa or Nezumia species [22:07:48] LAT :0.83444, LON : -176.62489, DEPTH : 486.1380m, TEMP : 7.49371C, SAL : 34.58170 PSU, DO : 2.32217 mg/L [22:08:51] It would be interesting to see the urchin to the left [22:09:06] (urchin?) [22:09:11] might be too far under the overhang for pilots [22:09:16] ok [22:09:25] I'll keep an eye out [22:10:18] soniarowley leaves the room [22:11:36] Cynoglossidae, probably a Symphurus species, but different than the others that we've seen before. [22:12:09] It crawls like an annelid! [22:12:49] LAT :0.83448, LON : -176.62483, DEPTH : 484.6614m, TEMP : 8.21922C, SAL : 34.61406 PSU, DO : 2.28489 mg/L [22:13:29] erineaston leaves the room [22:14:38] @Kevin - yes, or a millipede. [22:15:40] heterocarpus sp [22:17:25] Lophiidae, Lophiomus or Lophioides. Same species as seen throughout the dive [22:17:33] Lophiodes [22:17:50] LAT :0.83434, LON : -176.62487, DEPTH : 478.5547m, TEMP : 8.42524C, SAL : 34.61409 PSU, DO : 2.21146 mg/L [22:18:03] @Andrea - thanks. [22:19:01] Epigonus cf. atherinoides [22:19:54] flabellum like [22:20:06] not used to seeing them on "rock" though [22:21:04] briankennedy leaves the room [22:22:51] LAT :0.83436, LON : -176.62488, DEPTH : 473.4776m, TEMP : 8.98757C, SAL : 34.66397 PSU, DO : 2.36324 mg/L [22:23:57] big overhangs here. can't stay too close to th wall [22:25:06] Welcome to the lower mesophotic slopes of the Equatorial central Pacific Islands! Fearsome terrrain. Jarvis will be even more dramatic. [22:25:27] @Bruce: you are making me nervous! [22:27:50] Moridae, Physiculus species (P.coheni was described from the Line Islands, so could be that species) [22:27:52] LAT :0.83438, LON : -176.62491, DEPTH : 462.8854m, TEMP : 9.18492C, SAL : 34.66347 PSU, DO : 2.40799 mg/L [22:29:55] Could this be a Candidella? Looks like some branches are thicker than others, suggesting worm tubes! [22:30:57] Missed the Serios fish! Looking at the camera one video [22:31:01] There is definitely something going on along the branches that is affecting the deposition of sclerites. [22:31:09] Could be but I think the calcified base points more to Narella [22:31:40] Sponge is Corallistes [22:32:04] Another coralliid also [22:32:52] LAT :0.83439, LON : -176.62489, DEPTH : 455.6812m, TEMP : 9.18284C, SAL : 34.66408 PSU, DO : 2.37939 mg/L [22:33:37] Mollusca (Mollusc):Octopus for Octopus Friday! [22:34:28] Bruce, I saw you mentioned it on Seascribe too! [22:35:00] Could be a hydrocoral in the foreground [22:35:06] (of the octopus) [22:36:37] Oops. Scleratinian from behind, not hydrocoral. [22:37:52] LAT :0.83433, LON : -176.62492, DEPTH : 452.1438m, TEMP : 9.14953C, SAL : 34.66304 PSU, DO : 2.37063 mg/L [22:38:29] greeneye or greeneye relative, Paraulopidae or Chlorophthalmidae [22:41:34] One day we are going to figure out exactly what produces those mucus sheets/webs. [22:42:53] LAT :0.83430, LON : -176.62494, DEPTH : 446.2973m, TEMP : 9.15608C, SAL : 34.66150 PSU, DO : 2.34427 mg/L [22:43:33] christopherkelley leaves the room [22:43:35] Yes, a black coral [22:44:50] Scotttttttt, a bit more resolution on the id?? [22:45:06] small worm associate on black coral branch [22:46:59] The chlorophthalmid/paraulopid looked more like a paraulopid to me. One externally visible character is that chlorophthalmids have a straight or slightly concave profile to the head and snout, while paraulopids have a rounded profile. [22:47:18] Sorry Chris. Too preoccupied just now to help with better ID. I don't think it is a Stauropathes, so it would require a bit of searching. [22:47:54] LAT :0.83425, LON : -176.62495, DEPTH : 443.0305m, TEMP : 9.17594C, SAL : 34.66226 PSU, DO : 2.41429 mg/L [22:48:03] @Chris: I can tell you this one is Stichopathes! :-) [22:48:12] But I know you don't need to know that. [22:48:36] Ok thanks Scott. I just like better guesses that I can transform into stone. and yes, I might know this white whip [22:49:29] Have counted thousands of these when we used to do bottomfish transects. They are all over at these depths in Hawaii [22:50:21] Parantipathes [22:50:40] think so too- like more than growing together.... [22:50:57] looking for chiros on these. [22:51:15] @Chris: how about ?Chrysopathes for the earlier black coral fan... [22:51:25] see no associates.... no worms....no crabs.... [22:51:43] Yea, I was wondering that also Scott [22:52:54] LAT :0.83420, LON : -176.62486, DEPTH : 438.3401m, TEMP : 9.15918C, SAL : 34.66448 PSU, DO : 2.41216 mg/L [22:53:09] or even Hexapathes [22:54:57] loading speed in SeaScribe is too slow! [22:55:03] little hermit crabs? [22:55:52] soniarowley leaves the room [22:56:23] lets scoop some tubes [22:56:45] and perhaps date them? [22:58:00] LAT :0.83412, LON : -176.62489, DEPTH : 434.7067m, TEMP : 9.20431C, SAL : 34.66810 PSU, DO : 2.36681 mg/L [22:58:42] These seem too wide for amphipods or other crustacean [22:58:47] Yeah those are big for peracarids [23:00:02] I would definitely support collecting a bunch with the dustpan [23:00:10] agree- we were just reviewing what we know to make tubes in terms of crustaceans [23:00:41] They suuuurre look like ceriathid tubes... but why so many, and on the surface? [23:00:55] have not seen anything alive that would be the culrpit on these dives... [23:01:02] Scott, did you see the yellow leggy black coral? [23:01:05] They're extremely anti social [23:01:07] maybe this is a pile of them transported from upslope... [23:01:39] @Chris - that one above the tube? Yes - was just trying to come up with an ID [23:01:45] i would think of they'd been deposited from up slope the openings wouldn't be so well defined [23:02:55] LAT :0.83416, LON : -176.62489, DEPTH : 433.6935m, TEMP : 9.27552C, SAL : 34.65357 PSU, DO : 2.34719 mg/L [23:03:15] Lophiidae, different from others [23:03:19] I agree Jill. I think there's a good chance something is alive inside [23:04:09] Hans Ho in Taiwan just wrote that the other goosefish seen were Lophiodes mutilus. I'll send him the photos of this one. [23:05:15] @Chris: I'm drawing a blank on that leggy black coral. Where is Tina when you need her? [23:07:56] LAT :0.83412, LON : -176.62505, DEPTH : 434.9071m, TEMP : 9.46054C, SAL : 34.68317 PSU, DO : 2.28955 mg/L [23:11:06] peterauster leaves the room [23:12:02] @Scott - this is the type of terrain that I was thinking of! [23:12:33] Caenopedina pulchela [23:12:35] this is amazing- easter egg urchin! Ha. [23:12:54] When I first started working with deep-sea coral as a postdoc (in 1993) the target was Stichopathes, because a couple of papers had been published on high density communities on seamounts that seemed a good situation for subsampling population sizes. We were funded by HURL for dives with the Pisces V submersible on Cross Pensacola, and Bishop Seamounts. We never found the Stichopathes communities! Instead we found bamboo corals and primnoid corals, and that is what steered me to my last 2 decades of octocoral research. In retrospect, we were diving too deep. [23:12:58] LAT :0.83406, LON : -176.62504, DEPTH : 431.8714m, TEMP : 9.61338C, SAL : 34.69757 PSU, DO : 2.28025 mg/L [23:13:19] Re tube collection: we weren't ignoring, but have needed to keep making way. we are a bit behind schedule and I know there was keen interest to make it to the shallowest contour for fish observations-unfortunately scoop collections particularly take some time and we are trying to manage time as best as we can [23:14:09] Caenopedina probably C. pulchella urchin [23:14:29] It has been referred to by Chris Mah as a "Christmas urchin"... [23:14:42] @Amanda - Thanks. I'm interested in seeing the shallow part of the planned transect. [23:16:02] this is an asteroschematid. [23:16:09] chriostylid as well [23:16:13] Interesting that a couple of branches are looking for current from a different direction! [23:17:57] LAT :0.83403, LON : -176.62511, DEPTH : 430.0910m, TEMP : 9.60617C, SAL : 34.69044 PSU, DO : 2.31253 mg/L [23:18:10] that was fantastic. will work on the crabs. The oph had such prominant dorsal shields over the arms [23:18:20] scott-yes interesting branches coming up [23:18:59] Suggested ID on that large white scleractinian colony? [23:21:02] For the couple of very bizarre fish that we saw earlier, with black blotches on the body, there is amazing news (for fish nerds). Dr. Shinpei Ohashi in Japan writes " Thank you excellent photographs. The fish is surely Tetragondacnus spilotus Anderson and Satria, 2007 ! It is the newest and monotypic carapid genus and maybe reported only the holotype from near Indonesia. The species has many unique morphologies in the family such as position of the anal-fin origin, situated well posterior like as ophidiids. Recently, a few specimens were captured around Japan, Dr. Endo (BSKU: Kochi University) sent me the attached photograph." [23:22:56] I've got to head off. Enjoy the dive! [23:22:59] LAT :0.83399, LON : -176.62521, DEPTH : 427.3863m, TEMP : 9.63623C, SAL : 34.69359 PSU, DO : 2.26306 mg/L [23:23:45] scottfrance leaves the room [23:24:17] Ophiuroidea is Asteroschematidae? [23:25:00] asteroschematid ophiuroids x3 with shrimp near tip on Callagorgia (formosa) [23:27:58] LAT :0.83391, LON : -176.62523, DEPTH : 426.8583m, TEMP : 9.37551C, SAL : 34.67173 PSU, DO : 2.36347 mg/L [23:28:09] andreaquattrini leaves the room [23:28:42] Hoplostethus species, probably H. crassispinus [23:31:36] Chrionema chryseres [23:31:57] Some names are more fun that others to say [23:32:27] Yes, @Bruce, for example, Umbellula [23:32:40] thanks bruce :) [23:32:59] LAT :0.83387, LON : -176.62535, DEPTH : 427.3178m, TEMP : 9.29463C, SAL : 34.66955 PSU, DO : 2.35113 mg/L [23:37:01] Sorry for joining the party late. What are all those white dots on the slope? [23:37:59] LAT :0.83377, LON : -176.62539, DEPTH : 425.0964m, TEMP : 9.42292C, SAL : 34.68791 PSU, DO : 2.33699 mg/L [23:38:11] Hmmmm...no idea. Anyone know what these are? [23:38:31] Thank you! [23:41:07] Chlorophthalmidae, greeneye [23:41:35] Can we zoom in on that sponge? [23:42:12] Oh, nice!!!! [23:42:33] Chlorophthalmidae, Chlorophthalmus species (only one genus in the Pacific) [23:42:41] This is a lithistid demo sponge. The spicules are interlocked to make a dense, rock-like sponge. [23:43:00] LAT :0.83374, LON : -176.62546, DEPTH : 426.4120m, TEMP : 9.20761C, SAL : 34.66670 PSU, DO : 2.37184 mg/L [23:43:08] It COULD also be a Geodia (not a lithistid). Not a collection candidate right now. [23:43:26] briankennedy leaves the room [23:43:27] Lith=rock!!!! [23:43:30] scorpionfish, Scorpaenidae, on sponge [23:43:48] Actually, it's quite alive. That fringe is spicules! [23:44:10] beware sun outage time coming up [23:45:13] On a hexactinellid sponge. [23:45:21] Oh, really cool sponge! [23:45:39] Up to the top, now. Just a snap zoom will suffice. [23:46:03] xeno [23:46:11] That one...is it a xenon? [23:46:14] ? [23:46:29] Oh, COOL......any samples collected? [23:46:41] This would DEFINITELY be a candidate for collection. [23:46:52] This, for sure, is a lithistid demosponge [23:47:02] Can we get that sponge? [23:47:52] What are your collection goals? [23:47:56] in the Serios view, maybe another Cook shark, Echinorhinus cookei (time stamp is probably off on this) [23:48:00] LAT :0.83373, LON : -176.62541, DEPTH : 424.7629m, TEMP : 9.52203C, SAL : 34.67135 PSU, DO : 2.30756 mg/L [23:48:46] This is a very interesting sponge; related to one from which interesting anti-inflammatory compounds have been collected. Probably Leiodermatiium. [23:48:50] Got to go for a bit, good luck everyone! [23:48:59] thanks Jill [23:49:10] Sorry, I meant anticancer compounds. VERY POTENT anticancer cods. [23:49:20] Rigid!!!! No very rigid, will break. [23:49:27] jillbourque leaves the room [23:49:29] Anticancer compounds. [23:49:37] Not squishy at all. [23:49:47] Can gently grab with the claw. [23:49:51] we will grab and hold-and break it [23:50:17] adriennecopeland leaves the room [23:50:17] stevenauscavitch leaves the room [23:50:23] chat-admin leaves the room [23:50:24] amandademopoulos leaves the room [23:50:26] We have screen freeze now from sun fade [23:50:28] He'll be able to grab it and just gently tug it off the bottom [23:50:42] Oh rats rats rats!!! [23:51:33] we were lucky to find and request collection for the sponge before sun fade... [23:52:10] I believe I saw a galatheiodea arm coming up out the center of the mass of sponge on the right. There may be crab (and shrimp) associates to look for if this makes it to the lab. [23:52:39] Can any of you see the video yet? [23:52:53] No, all frozen here at ECC [23:52:54] Nope, frozen solid like the east coast [23:53:08] LOL--not in Florida :-) [23:53:39] Maybe we could make Tim feel bad by discussing the weather in Hawaii and Florida [23:54:12] no. frozen here and cannot hear anything from conference line. [23:54:30] 84 degrees here in Honolulu (83 with the wind chill factor) [23:55:00] jaymesawbrey leaves the room [23:55:13] freezing here. Ridiculour [23:55:15] Bruce, you have as big a mean streak as I have [23:55:37] 27F tonight [23:56:06] Yikes Tim. Hopefully you have a fireplace going [23:56:25] Ha. only a bunson burner- I am in the lab for these dives..... [23:56:42] my one candle burned down last night....:-( [23:57:15] Its not quite the same as a "roaring" fire, is it? [23:57:28] nope.... [23:59:45] christopherkelley leaves the room