[00:01:34] LAT :-5.62966, LON : -173.83890, DEPTH : 1635.7271m, TEMP : 2.55094C, SAL : 34.62127 PSU, DO : 3.62477 mg/L [00:02:51] this is a nodal brancher, so could be almost anything...maybe most closely related to J3 clade, but who knows [00:03:11] truly amazing... must be ancient [00:03:29] is there another smaller one somewhere - i am against disturbing this giant fan [00:03:32] it would be great to collect [00:03:35] Sorry, had stepped out for a bit and am now back. That does look like the same sponge [00:03:44] PIPA office will want to know what it is, if indeed it is one of the largest corals seen [00:03:56] there was a piece just behind the big fan that could be taken [00:04:22] that would be better - the smaller one, if they are the sa e [00:04:24] but would prefer to take the small piece behind the big one [00:04:27] *same [00:04:40] a piece could be taken of the side that wouldn't disturb it too much [00:05:00] jaymesawbrey leaves the room [00:05:20] it was up and behind the big bamboo [00:05:31] pan left and tilt up [00:06:35] LAT :-5.62985, LON : -173.83884, DEPTH : 1634.8626m, TEMP : 2.62718C, SAL : 34.61418 PSU, DO : 3.61785 mg/L [00:07:00] midwater fish, probably Gonostomatidae, a bristlemouth or lightfish. Couldn't identify the genus [00:07:01] ok. so set up for collection of small bamboo, in front of ancient colony [00:07:28] @Steve - yes if possible. That's seems to be the consensus [00:08:11] what i thought was a chrysogorgid is a sponge [00:08:55] there is a chryso on the cliff edge [00:09:05] (could be hydroids) [00:09:57] I knew it! :) [00:10:28] the piece now protruding on the right side of the image would be good as it is for sure a part of the bigger whole [00:11:03] the little one in the center is probably the same thing, branching looks the same [00:11:36] LAT :-5.62986, LON : -173.83886, DEPTH : 1636.4286m, TEMP : 2.55847C, SAL : 34.62162 PSU, DO : 3.64351 mg/L [00:12:23] I think I need to change my identification of the sponge bowl on a stalk. I said it was likely a Bolosominae (stalked group) in the family Euplectellidae but now I think it is actually in a completely different family, the Euretidae, which has hard sponges. This could be something related to what we have been calling Chonelasmatinae n genus, which is an unidentified genus in that subfamily [00:13:30] Nothing from Allen yet about the possible age of the large fan. I don't know if the base was seen well enough to help him. [00:14:52] when we lift of we can scan the base of the large one on the other side [00:14:52] But whatever it is, its different than anything we know at the present time. The one on screen right now is dead so if this is a viable candidate for collection, we would need to look for a white live one as we proceed upslope. [00:15:40] Nice close up thanks! Probably a J3 but very hard to tell.... [00:16:14] chris kelley [00:16:25] can we have 3 bio collction in this dive? [00:16:36] LAT :-5.62978, LON : -173.83885, DEPTH : 1636.3476m, TEMP : 2.54700C, SAL : 34.62332 PSU, DO : 3.65104 mg/L [00:16:47] potentiall yes asako [00:17:39] there is also the possibility of it being in I1 clade, but that one is a mish-mash of southern hemishphere things and we don't have a good consistent character set for it. J3 is a bit of a mish-mash as well, actually [00:18:06] Thank you Amanda! [00:18:13] Synaphobranchidae, Synaphobranchus brevidorsalis (most likely) or oregoni [00:19:34] nice collection! well done! [00:20:29] @Les, what other clade would have the polyps packed with sclerites to the extent that they would look white like that? [00:20:36] taylorheyl leaves the room [00:21:37] LAT :-5.62989, LON : -173.83887, DEPTH : 1633.6418m, TEMP : 2.55769C, SAL : 34.61862 PSU, DO : 3.66194 mg/L [00:21:50] I'm thinking only these two I've mentioned @Chris [00:22:31] branches have bent downward and started forming holdfasts when in contact with the rock [00:23:09] this really is the most bizarre bamboo ever!! [00:23:40] that big base in the front must have been from an older one now long gone [00:23:48] Allen Andrews writes "A branch about 30 cm from base was ~~0.85 cm radius = ~~152 years of growth. Hence, likely well over 200 years for clustered colony." [00:24:38] very cool [00:24:44] thanks Allen! [00:26:37] LAT :-5.62965, LON : -173.83881, DEPTH : 1630.9728m, TEMP : 2.59076C, SAL : 34.61809 PSU, DO : 3.58751 mg/L [00:28:47] Pick up a rock here and you will get the entire earth [00:29:49] *Earth [00:29:50] that sounds heavy, bruce [00:30:39] From Jan Witting (SEA): this is the south flank, heading north. Water flow is east to west, this flank likely more exposed to flow and particle flux than the leeward (west flank) or upcurrent flank east. [00:31:37] LAT :-5.62953, LON : -173.83879, DEPTH : 1627.1708m, TEMP : 2.55201C, SAL : 34.61988 PSU, DO : 3.62687 mg/L [00:33:01] anthomastus [00:36:38] LAT :-5.62954, LON : -173.83881, DEPTH : 1624.4577m, TEMP : 2.58412C, SAL : 34.61879 PSU, DO : 3.62038 mg/L [00:37:38] michaelparke leaves the room [00:37:39] i think its fine to take one from a PIPA perspective [00:38:03] they are interested in ID'ing new species and any "firsts", so if a collection helps with that, it will be of use to Kiribati [00:39:50] Thanks Randi. This is likely the first collection of this species anywhere and its in PIPA! [00:41:39] LAT :-5.62944, LON : -173.83879, DEPTH : 1624.7864m, TEMP : 2.53192C, SAL : 34.62175 PSU, DO : 3.63584 mg/L [00:41:45] I think that justifies whole collection [00:41:52] I will vouch for that decision if need be [00:42:03] thanks randi [00:42:21] polychaete trying to swim onto the arm [00:42:22] any taxonomic guesses? [00:43:44] thanks Chris! [00:43:48] More from Allen Andrews about that large bamboo coral fan - "The huge colony have a couple of cylindrical sections that I could measure to about 2.8 cm in diameter. Clearly it is a mix of branches and could be different settlement events. But... the thickest part that is not tangled would be about 280-300 years old. Full width of the colony was about 4 meters (based on laser proportioning). Fun!" [00:44:53] Randi, best guess is that its in the family Euretidae but the ridges on the stalk and the inside of the bowl and puzzling. Could also be in a number of other "hard" sponge families [00:46:01] @Chris - thanks. That's really helpful. [00:46:39] LAT :-5.62955, LON : -173.83886, DEPTH : 1624.7633m, TEMP : 2.53833C, SAL : 34.62161 PSU, DO : 3.64765 mg/L [00:48:33] D2_DIVE03_SPEC03BIO [00:48:52] peterauster leaves the room [00:48:55] Thanks for the collection - really exciting [00:49:09] Yes, thanks very much. [00:50:19] @Amanda - vindicated! [00:50:30] yippee [00:51:40] LAT :-5.62942, LON : -173.83899, DEPTH : 1621.9359m, TEMP : 2.62100C, SAL : 34.58733 PSU, DO : 3.62079 mg/L [00:54:12] something on the left [00:54:19] holothurian? [00:54:56] batfish! [00:55:11] yes! [00:55:20] Holy batfish! [00:55:32] hi andrea! [00:55:44] andrea-ur making us giggle [00:56:40] LAT :-5.62929, LON : -173.83886, DEPTH : 1617.5270m, TEMP : 2.57327C, SAL : 34.61888 PSU, DO : 3.61326 mg/L [00:56:59] batfish, Ogcocephalidae, genus needs to be determined [00:57:10] probably an acrocirrid [00:57:34] hi! [00:58:10] @Andrea - Hi. Any ideas about the batfish? It was new to me [00:59:05] Not sure. It reminded me of Dibranchus but I didn't get a good look. [00:59:08] Hi All! Tuning in from the cafeteria at LUMCON! [00:59:46] you missed a pretty good dive today @Scott [01:00:12] Figures! [01:00:13] isopod [01:00:20] couple acanthogorgiids in this spot [01:00:28] Synaphobranchus, but looked different from the ones seen earlier [01:00:29] Hi Scott! [01:00:32] run the low res version back an hour or so and you will see the largest bamboo fan ever recorded [01:00:34] Okay, okay. Don't rub it in! [01:00:56] I'm noticing white spots on the acanthogorgia colonies. Could it be associated with the presence of ophiuroids? The polyps still appear so it doesn't look like dead skeleton [01:01:41] LAT :-5.62914, LON : -173.83895, DEPTH : 1612.1560m, TEMP : 2.60605C, SAL : 34.60766 PSU, DO : 3.60656 mg/L [01:03:04] @Scott, class field trip? [01:04:14] this one gets a little bizarre near the tip, as do most B1 clades when they get long like this [01:04:51] C1 can do so too, so need a look at polyp to be sure which clade [01:05:16] The batfish was probably either a Malthopsis species or a Solocisquama species [01:05:23] 2 pycnogonid associates on this whip [01:06:41] LAT :-5.62905, LON : -173.83902, DEPTH : 1610.1836m, TEMP : 2.63583C, SAL : 34.61564 PSU, DO : 3.58065 mg/L [01:07:09] Collosendeis? [01:07:10] santiagoherrera leaves the room [01:08:37] @Les: yes. In fact we are discussing tomorrow's sampling, and just shared the sea spiders. [01:08:46] Amy Moran, who is in the office next door came and had a look. She thought Pallenopsis, but not enough detail [01:09:59] Anyway, pycnos are one of the few predators of these bamboos... and that was a B1 clade, by the way [01:11:03] andreaquattrini leaves the room [01:11:42] LAT :-5.62889, LON : -173.83907, DEPTH : 1611.1791m, TEMP : 2.63566C, SAL : 34.61600 PSU, DO : 3.57249 mg/L [01:12:42] Synaphobranchus species [01:13:29] jillbourque leaves the room [01:14:20] umbellula in sediment [01:15:00] Synaphobranchidae, Synaphobranchus brevidorsalis or (less likely) oregoni [01:16:42] LAT :-5.62876, LON : -173.83905, DEPTH : 1605.8797m, TEMP : 2.65841C, SAL : 34.61063 PSU, DO : 3.52997 mg/L [01:18:35] Seastar was likely Circeaster pullus or something close to that [01:21:43] LAT :-5.62861, LON : -173.83909, DEPTH : 1600.4330m, TEMP : 2.66600C, SAL : 34.61387 PSU, DO : 3.56286 mg/L [01:22:03] A note by e-mail from Ken Sulak, an expert on synaphobranchid eels - " Regarding syanpho IDs, the most recent viewed is a definite Synaphobranchus sp., the next previous with a more rounded inflated snout is not Synaphobranchus, the next previous with nice long 'smiling' gap and dorsal roughly inserted opposited vent (midbody) was probably S. affinis." [01:22:26] Ken knows these eels better than anyone. [01:23:03] taylorheyl leaves the room [01:24:27] Great eyes Steve! [01:24:56] The eel that Ken says was not a Synaphobranchus could have been an Ilyophis species, although that is very tentative since Ken didn't offer that identification [01:25:06] its a giant nemertean! [01:25:27] Fat for a nemertean! [01:25:41] Never seen one of those either [01:26:28] It looks like someone dropped their intestine... [01:26:43] LAT :-5.62861, LON : -173.83910, DEPTH : 1602.5988m, TEMP : 2.66617C, SAL : 34.61208 PSU, DO : 3.56625 mg/L [01:27:33] any chance for a rock? interested in age, so would be good if possible. [01:28:02] I don't see anything workable here randi...unfortunate [01:28:44] its hard to see from my screen, so good to know. thanks! [01:29:25] there may be some loose rocks at the base of the next 'wall', assuming there is another one coming up [01:30:43] Umbellula [01:31:21] This seems shallow for Umbellula... ? [01:31:44] LAT :-5.62849, LON : -173.83937, DEPTH : 1608.2341m, TEMP : 2.64437C, SAL : 34.61490 PSU, DO : 3.57134 mg/L [01:31:58] Ken Sulak follows up with "That middle occurring syanpho did not have the offset at the very end of the tale, the body was uniform in depth over a large portion of the body length (Ilyobphis-like), and the pectorals fairly short (also Ilyophis-like), However, the overall gestalt was that this was likely not Ilyophis." [01:33:08] Just checked Williams (2011) - Umbellula does get above 1000 m even though it is also as deep as 6000 m. [01:34:37] substrate here looks like weathered carbonate encrusted with ferromanganese [01:34:51] based on morphology of outcrops [01:34:59] seaScribe cannot be refreshed for this 10 min. [01:35:04] but that's just my non-geologist opinion [01:35:26] a little deep for carbonates? that's also my non geologist opinion ;) [01:35:48] ROVs are starting their ascent [01:35:50] quite an impressive species list on this dive! [01:36:02] before this wraps up, can we get some high res shots of the sediment? A request from Jan Witting [01:36:05] and some firsts for the region [01:36:34] he thinks there is a bunch of small stuff clsoe to the substrate that he's like to look at more closely later, if possible [01:36:44] LAT :-5.62825, LON : -173.83922, DEPTH : 1603.9840m, TEMP : 2.63173C, SAL : 34.61509 PSU, DO : 3.59156 mg/L [01:36:48] or tomorrow if not possible today [01:36:52] randi-from d2 view or from serios, video is freely availble too for frame grabbin [01:37:03] sorry it works. it was my mistake [01:37:41] EX1703_DIVE03 Vehicles Ascending [01:37:55] nicolemorgan leaves the room [01:37:59] leswatling leaves the room [01:38:25] Bummer I missed most of it! [01:38:46] It was exciting and full of interest dive. Thank you for the great dive! see you tomorrow. [01:39:20] sorry I missed a lot of it, but what I saw was amazing! [01:39:30] scottfrance leaves the room [01:39:33] asakomatsumoto leaves the room [01:39:34] great job everyone, thank you! [01:39:44] Thank you! Great to be with you all today. [01:40:04] Thanks so much everyone! Really phenomenal first day in PIPA [01:40:36] Thank you for a fun dive. I will have to miss the next two, but I will be back on Monday [01:40:44] taylorheyl leaves the room [01:41:19] one more Q from Jan Witting - any info about the depths of the major reflective layers? [01:41:41] kensulak leaves the room [01:41:45] LAT :-5.62872, LON : -173.83973, DEPTH : 1533.6576m, TEMP : 2.84696C, SAL : 34.60356 PSU, DO : 3.51685 mg/L [01:42:01] christopherkelley leaves the room [01:46:46] LAT :-5.62893, LON : -173.83973, DEPTH : 1373.4596m, TEMP : 3.26159C, SAL : 34.58481 PSU, DO : 3.33063 mg/L [01:51:46] LAT :-5.62852, LON : -173.83959, DEPTH : 1218.9068m, TEMP : 3.61668C, SAL : 34.56938 PSU, DO : 3.16721 mg/L [01:56:46] LAT :-5.62832, LON : -173.83898, DEPTH : 1062.3803m, TEMP : 4.14240C, SAL : 34.55192 PSU, DO : 3.06438 mg/L [01:57:12] brucemundy leaves the room [01:59:07] randirotjan leaves the room [02:01:47] LAT :-5.62789, LON : -173.83837, DEPTH : 915.1334m, TEMP : 4.86929C, SAL : 34.53777 PSU, DO : 2.81103 mg/L [02:06:47] LAT :-5.62749, LON : -173.83776, DEPTH : 771.7756m, TEMP : 5.66654C, SAL : 34.53741 PSU, DO : 2.59284 mg/L [02:10:08] santiagoherrera leaves the room [02:11:18] briankennedy leaves the room [02:11:48] LAT :-5.62716, LON : -173.83705, DEPTH : 624.3090m, TEMP : 6.83229C, SAL : 34.55042 PSU, DO : 3.30505 mg/L [02:15:54] adriennecopeland leaves the room [02:16:48] LAT :-5.62684, LON : -173.83623, DEPTH : 477.1864m, TEMP : 8.76951C, SAL : 34.64380 PSU, DO : 3.77653 mg/L [02:18:33] erikcordes leaves the room [02:21:04] stevenauscavitch leaves the room [02:21:49] LAT :-5.62651, LON : -173.83558, DEPTH : 325.3321m, TEMP : 10.50581C, SAL : 34.77368 PSU, DO : 2.34565 mg/L [02:26:49] LAT :-5.62664, LON : -173.83563, DEPTH : 187.3235m, TEMP : 22.55712C, SAL : 36.09157 PSU, DO : 4.85681 mg/L [02:28:15] amandademopoulos leaves the room [02:31:50] LAT :-5.62676, LON : -173.83526, DEPTH : 50.7241m, TEMP : 29.46451C, SAL : 35.33006 PSU, DO : 6.32266 mg/L [02:36:50] LAT :-5.62761, LON : -173.83505, DEPTH : 14.9473m, TEMP : 99.00000C, SAL : 13.54660 PSU, DO : 83.05191 mg/L [02:38:18] EX1703_DIVE03 Recovery Complete [03:15:45] briankennedy leaves the room [03:15:47] amandademopoulos leaves the room [03:16:06] mashkoormalik leaves the room [03:17:17] tinamolodtsova leaves the room [03:23:19] mashkoormalik leaves the room [03:31:14] okexnav leaves the room [03:33:07] okexnav leaves the room [05:07:06] EX1703_DIVE03 Vehicles in the Water [05:07:25] EX1703_DIVE03 Rov Launch [05:07:58] EX1703_DIVE03 Vehicles in the Water [05:10:17] EX1703_DIVE03 Rov Launch [05:10:22] EX1703_DIVE03 Vehicles in the Water [05:11:59] EX1703_DIVE03 Vehicles Descending [09:57:44] amandademopoulos leaves the room [09:59:03] okexnav leaves the room [13:31:27] mashkoormalik leaves the room [17:44:35] briankennedy leaves the room [18:07:59] briankennedy leaves the room [18:09:07] 10 minutes to launch [18:11:05] iscwatch2 leaves the room [18:13:47] EX1703_DIVE04 Rov Launch [18:18:11] santiagoherrera leaves the room [18:19:24] EX1703_DIVE04 Vehicles in the Water [18:20:41] EX1703_DIVE04 Vehicles Descending [18:21:01] LAT :-4.15030, LON : -174.85269, DEPTH : 16.7598m, TEMP : 99.00000C, SAL : 13.59239 PSU, DO : 83.44598 mg/L [18:26:02] LAT :-4.15040, LON : -174.85324, DEPTH : 61.3876m, TEMP : 99.00000C, SAL : 13.57800 PSU, DO : 83.81220 mg/L [18:31:02] LAT :-4.15054, LON : -174.85361, DEPTH : 213.5089m, TEMP : 17.08248C, SAL : 35.38884 PSU, DO : 3.73995 mg/L [18:35:53] taylorheyl leaves the room [18:36:03] LAT :-4.15075, LON : -174.85390, DEPTH : 363.2036m, TEMP : 9.97442C, SAL : 34.73487 PSU, DO : 2.57738 mg/L [18:41:04] LAT :-4.15099, LON : -174.85420, DEPTH : 517.2995m, TEMP : 8.03770C, SAL : 34.60153 PSU, DO : 3.58743 mg/L [18:44:34] pre-dive call still on for 1:50? [18:46:04] LAT :-4.15087, LON : -174.85430, DEPTH : 675.0894m, TEMP : 6.67942C, SAL : 34.54488 PSU, DO : 3.40059 mg/L [18:46:20] @Randi - think so. [18:47:51] yes all predive in 3 min or so [18:51:04] LAT :-4.15063, LON : -174.85446, DEPTH : 828.0671m, TEMP : 5.30671C, SAL : 34.53937 PSU, DO : 2.86634 mg/L [18:51:51] can't get on the call [18:51:57] will try again in a sec [18:53:13] on [18:53:28] Hi Randi! [18:53:42] Wow, hi Tara! It's been a long time! [18:56:05] LAT :-4.15057, LON : -174.85431, DEPTH : 993.0535m, TEMP : 4.49856C, SAL : 34.54924 PSU, DO : 2.77440 mg/L [18:57:34] christopherkelley leaves the room [19:01:05] LAT :-4.15058, LON : -174.85404, DEPTH : 1142.2229m, TEMP : 3.92367C, SAL : 34.56442 PSU, DO : 2.92589 mg/L [19:01:21] randi-that was an awesome overview, thank you [19:02:49] Thanks for the opportunity - this is such an honor to be part of this team [19:05:17] Wonderful Erik [19:05:22] thanks Erik! [19:06:06] LAT :-4.15034, LON : -174.85434, DEPTH : 1186.3946m, TEMP : 3.81099C, SAL : 34.56609 PSU, DO : 3.11391 mg/L [19:07:06] I'm so disappointed that I missed yesterday's dive! Sounds like it was fantastic. [19:09:27] bottom in site [19:11:07] LAT :-4.15024, LON : -174.85430, DEPTH : 1220.2188m, TEMP : 3.80073C, SAL : 34.56716 PSU, DO : 3.16831 mg/L [19:11:35] EX1703_DIVE04 Vehicles on Bottom [19:12:24] Good morning all [19:13:15] Good morning Asako [19:13:32] Hi Tara! [19:14:35] majority of seafloor sedimented at landing site [19:14:47] briankennedy leaves the room [19:15:57] not seeing coral rubble [19:16:07] LAT :-4.15025, LON : -174.85434, DEPTH : 1228.7232m, TEMP : 3.79218C, SAL : 34.56625 PSU, DO : 3.14428 mg/L [19:16:29] possible trackline on mud slope [19:16:42] faecal casts [19:16:48] sediment looks a little fluffy with perhaps slighty sinuous but broad tracklines [19:16:52] no corals - no rubble... too much sediment [19:17:06] would expect to see some holothurians or urchins.... [19:17:19] seapens [19:21:08] LAT :-4.15019, LON : -174.85431, DEPTH : 1226.9599m, TEMP : 3.80675C, SAL : 34.56234 PSU, DO : 3.13153 mg/L [19:21:30] Looks like Paramurice [19:21:31] a [19:21:40] looks like a tiny white oph next to the larger one on this paramuricea-like coral [19:21:49] agree with santjago [19:22:33] the whip in the base of Iridogorgia... loks like juv [19:23:15] at least 2 "juv" individ [19:24:53] have the same undulating form [19:26:07] HOL? [19:26:08] LAT :-4.15022, LON : -174.85431, DEPTH : 1226.9198m, TEMP : 3.80261C, SAL : 34.56564 PSU, DO : 3.18798 mg/L [19:30:59] malcolmclark leaves the room [19:31:09] LAT :-4.15033, LON : -174.85428, DEPTH : 1227.1291m, TEMP : 3.79246C, SAL : 34.56609 PSU, DO : 3.27534 mg/L [19:31:22] leaves, not branches [19:36:09] LAT :-4.15026, LON : -174.85424, DEPTH : 1227.5833m, TEMP : 3.66921C, SAL : 34.57133 PSU, DO : 3.18894 mg/L [19:36:51] taylorheyl leaves the room [19:37:24] i think this sea pen is unknwon [19:39:22] hi andrea! [19:39:31] hey! [19:41:01] can we get a close zoom on the sediment? might be wrth looking at more closely later to see if we can determine origin? [19:41:10] LAT :-4.15020, LON : -174.85424, DEPTH : 1225.7446m, TEMP : 3.67612C, SAL : 34.57106 PSU, DO : 3.11073 mg/L [19:42:30] sure can. Will try to get a close zoom when we pick up a rock [19:42:55] perfect, thanks guys! [19:45:45] pagurid [19:46:10] LAT :-4.15017, LON : -174.85423, DEPTH : 1223.3612m, TEMP : 3.69999C, SAL : 34.56867 PSU, DO : 3.12563 mg/L [19:46:31] briankennedy leaves the room [19:46:35] not a pagurid [19:46:49] homolid? [19:47:04] wow that is amaizng [19:47:06] I think we saw this yesterday. [19:48:27] Aspidodiadematid , possobly aspidodiadema (for the urchin) [19:51:11] LAT :-4.15015, LON : -174.85424, DEPTH : 1223.7627m, TEMP : 3.67933C, SAL : 34.57131 PSU, DO : 3.15012 mg/L [19:53:23] Bamboo coral "whip" and Branched primnoid [19:56:11] LAT :-4.15014, LON : -174.85413, DEPTH : 1216.6626m, TEMP : 3.69286C, SAL : 34.57136 PSU, DO : 3.15236 mg/L [19:56:18] euplectellidae? [19:58:37] Yes, think so. [20:01:12] LAT :-4.15005, LON : -174.85418, DEPTH : 1214.6197m, TEMP : 3.69082C, SAL : 34.57073 PSU, DO : 3.11898 mg/L [20:03:33] white octocoral, polyps closed (1 OPH) [20:04:52] possible paragorgia [20:04:55] cusk eel before the white octocoral [20:05:50] @andreas- Taylor and I agree... [20:06:12] LAT :-4.15008, LON : -174.85400, DEPTH : 1209.2301m, TEMP : 3.74826C, SAL : 34.56766 PSU, DO : 3.20532 mg/L [20:06:57] Iss this Victorgorgia? Looks a bit different [20:07:52] agreed. we saw victorgorgia on dive 1. Looks differnet. Could be just because its small? [20:09:11] brisingid- not Novodinia like [20:09:21] I think it looks differnt from what we know Victorgorgia [20:09:24] erikcordes leaves the room [20:09:41] I agree with Asako and Steve. I don't think it was Victorgorgia [20:10:27] May be worth a collection for future? [20:10:49] andrea-we will be on the look out for another purple one [20:10:50] I would support that. I'll keep an eye out [20:11:13] LAT :-4.14997, LON : -174.85403, DEPTH : 1203.2550m, TEMP : 3.76813C, SAL : 34.57006 PSU, DO : 3.08803 mg/L [20:11:34] agree with candidate for the collection for that purple one [20:13:14] amandademopoulos leaves the room [20:14:00] white squat lobster [20:14:14] looked like munidopsis [20:15:45] maybe Diplacanthopoma? [20:16:13] LAT :-4.14992, LON : -174.85391, DEPTH : 1197.0383m, TEMP : 3.78887C, SAL : 34.56712 PSU, DO : 3.14834 mg/L [20:18:28] last cusk was Diplacanthopoma was also seen in the Papahana. Monument in 2015 [20:19:26] andrea: the big one with the tapered tail? [20:21:14] LAT :-4.14987, LON : -174.85383, DEPTH : 1192.1450m, TEMP : 3.80592C, SAL : 34.56255 PSU, DO : 3.14839 mg/L [20:21:32] yes the big one [20:21:54] thanks A! [20:22:04] Synaphobranchus [20:22:56] cf brevidorsalis [20:23:42] @Andrea, do you think these yellow corals are Paramuricea? [20:24:05] briankennedy leaves the room [20:26:15] LAT :-4.14984, LON : -174.85377, DEPTH : 1185.0528m, TEMP : 3.79726C, SAL : 34.56720 PSU, DO : 3.16070 mg/L [20:26:48] @Tim yep [20:28:11] perhaps next time could get a close view of the polyp of the yellow one to see how its made. That will help determine who it might be, I think.... [20:29:18] Yes we can get another snap of the yellow paramuriceids [20:29:39] @Andrea, I just checked the purple one... we all guess its Victorgorgia, but one should be collected to find out for sure. I think we might have collected one from Hawaii monument, but can't remember for sure. [20:30:28] pteropod shells on the sediment here [20:30:44] @Les good to know. It looked different-polyps were quite large, but it could have been the small size [20:30:47] red amphipod and oph associates on primnoid [20:31:15] LAT :-4.14978, LON : -174.85371, DEPTH : 1183.1343m, TEMP : 3.80024C, SAL : 34.56609 PSU, DO : 3.08196 mg/L [20:31:22] 2 chrinoids on this primnoid too [20:32:41] i missed the question [20:32:50] but yes, synaphobranchus [20:33:03] thanks Andrea, i mean amanda :) [20:33:49] Amanda, I think It might have been a Bythitidae (the one we didn't identify earlier) [20:34:15] Tara-yes, i'm wondering that as well... [20:34:18] The other problem with Victorgorgia is that there is only one species known, V. josephinae, from the NE Atlantic, but we are seeing and calling things Victorgorgia from all over the Pacific. So, enquiring minds want to know.... [20:34:22] Amanda and Steve, you are doing fine on the fish. As Chris mentioned earlier, going to genus with synaphobranchids is difficult. It looks more Synaphobranchus than Diastobranchus though. [20:35:15] thanks Malcolm appreciate your input! [20:35:52] Someone said "Victorgorgia" was collected last year? anyone remember that event? [20:36:16] LAT :-4.14983, LON : -174.85364, DEPTH : 1178.4123m, TEMP : 3.79533C, SAL : 34.56630 PSU, DO : 2.94145 mg/L [20:36:17] chirostylid uroptychus- little color on body [20:37:49] the Chrysogorgia has a very simple branch rotation, perhaps only 1/2 to the left. Quite different. [20:38:28] @Steven: we collected Victorgorgia EX1606 DIVE14. but it is completelly different from what we saw in this dive. [20:39:03] amphipod [20:39:42] taylorheyl leaves the room [20:40:52] I didn't see a collar with large spine like sclerites there so I am doubting Paramuricea as the genus for this. [20:41:06] Sladenia [20:41:16] LAT :-4.14982, LON : -174.85365, DEPTH : 1176.2305m, TEMP : 3.80024C, SAL : 34.56643 PSU, DO : 3.06639 mg/L [20:41:34] Sladenia was my first thought as well [20:41:56] Welcome Jan! [20:42:29] Thanks! Really excited to be here. Or there, really. [20:44:12] the cirri are fleshy, not spiny [20:46:17] LAT :-4.14968, LON : -174.85359, DEPTH : 1174.2616m, TEMP : 3.80167C, SAL : 34.57009 PSU, DO : 3.07817 mg/L [20:46:38] Are there any plans to sample the seds at all? [20:46:59] no way to sample the sediments [20:47:35] Iridogorgia magnispiralis, young one.... [20:47:47] taylorheyl leaves the room [20:50:02] anyone catch the name of the stalked crinoid [20:51:17] LAT :-4.14958, LON : -174.85356, DEPTH : 1171.9752m, TEMP : 3.81028C, SAL : 34.56604 PSU, DO : 3.05786 mg/L [20:51:48] There seems to be quite a bit of texture on the sediment - long dark flecks etc. Any sense to stop and get a close-up of the sed. surface? [20:52:20] These could be Sibogagorgia [20:56:18] LAT :-4.14974, LON : -174.85356, DEPTH : 1169.3144m, TEMP : 3.81226C, SAL : 34.56634 PSU, DO : 3.08973 mg/L [20:56:35] did anyone get a good look at the crab on the primnoid? [20:56:52] sounded like "fritocrinoid" [20:57:44] phyronocdrinidae [20:58:14] those ophiacanthid-like ophis seem to prefer that primnoid as I don't see them on the rocks at all, at least so far. [20:58:22] abbylapointe leaves the room [20:59:05] @Les- agree, exactly. and that particular oph morph looked different than other corals seen today. [21:00:05] any way to probe sediment depth? wondering about deposition, and depth might be useful [21:00:56] agree on the seds story.... there seems to be a lot of sand here, maybe a history of little current [21:01:18] LAT :-4.14966, LON : -174.85335, DEPTH : 1165.1711m, TEMP : 3.85041C, SAL : 34.56509 PSU, DO : 3.08639 mg/L [21:01:34] @Amanda - thanks [21:02:10] agglutinated foram [21:02:16] waiting for Chri Mah, but looks like a skinny Henricia sp. [21:04:06] definitely seeing sediment winnowing, bedforsm [21:04:14] another nice I magnispiralis [21:04:25] with associate [21:04:33] Gastrotychus crab on I. magnispiralis [21:04:56] @Amanda, yeah was going to take back my remark about currents seeing all those ripple marks.... [21:05:46] Gastrotychus-like crab [21:05:52] also carryng a piece of stuff on its fifth legs... [21:06:18] what is it with these crabs??? [21:06:19] LAT :-4.14969, LON : -174.85328, DEPTH : 1162.2566m, TEMP : 3.86893C, SAL : 34.56529 PSU, DO : 3.09442 mg/L [21:06:29] The fish was too quick for me! [21:06:51] possibly a Chiasmodontidae? [21:06:58] thanks malcolm [21:07:19] perhaps a black swallower [21:09:25] it looks like there is something sticking out of the sand that might be associated with it [21:10:20] i think it's the arm tips [21:11:19] LAT :-4.14969, LON : -174.85327, DEPTH : 1160.6675m, TEMP : 3.89130C, SAL : 34.56504 PSU, DO : 3.04186 mg/L [21:11:37] Randi, are you satisfied with the sediment closeup? [21:11:42] jillbourque leaves the room [21:12:02] the sand looks more like globigerina type than pteropod shells [21:12:06] That was great. @Jan - okay with you? [21:12:42] @Steve - if we see more mottled sedminent, would be good to get another closeup. But I think that does it for the fine sediment. Thanks! [21:13:10] Yes, agree. Likely a pretty rich cryptic invert community reworking all the POC raining from above. [21:13:26] We are going to try to collect the stalked crinoid near the top [21:13:41] support for this? never been collected, only seen in video [21:14:07] Every time we get a close-up glimpse of the rocks, they have lot's going on on top with ophiuroids etc. [21:14:17] that would be great @Steve [21:15:07] I'm fine with collecting the crinoid.... know nothing about who is who so leave that to you... [21:15:17] sounds good Steve [21:16:20] LAT :-4.14971, LON : -174.85321, DEPTH : 1156.0534m, TEMP : 3.90479C, SAL : 34.56954 PSU, DO : 3.00309 mg/L [21:16:24] is this the one that Chuck Messing thought should be collected? Has the filaments at the ends of the arms... [21:16:25] note to the community: if possible, any new species named in PIPA should have a second name, a Kiribati name, in addition to whatever scientific name given.. Happy to help with that [21:19:00] will it fit in the biobox? [21:19:16] @Les- did you get a good look at the shrimp on this crinoid? [21:20:38] I hope when it closes up it wll fit [21:21:20] LAT :-4.14966, LON : -174.85314, DEPTH : 1155.9369m, TEMP : 3.91398C, SAL : 34.56387 PSU, DO : 2.95353 mg/L [21:21:33] it appears - lost the shrimp upon collection.... [21:22:08] may need to be pushed in [21:22:09] small white bodies on the crinoid. [21:23:10] On the earlier purple object, looked to be an anthozoan medusa tangled on the branches of the coral. [21:25:28] taraluke leaves the room [21:25:47] D2_DIVE04_SPEC01BIO [21:25:49] great job! [21:26:09] janwitting leaves the room [21:26:21] LAT :-4.14961, LON : -174.85320, DEPTH : 1153.7806m, TEMP : 3.93556C, SAL : 34.56472 PSU, DO : 2.86608 mg/L [21:28:03] @Tim, sorry I stepped away to get a coffee so will use the replay to check the shrimp... [21:28:53] serpulids on rock [21:31:11] whats making the sediment trail? [21:31:22] LAT :-4.14955, LON : -174.85306, DEPTH : 1146.7558m, TEMP : 3.99009C, SAL : 34.56144 PSU, DO : 2.97318 mg/L [21:31:43] @Tim, I just saw the shrimp take off... Did it come back? [21:32:16] @Les, don't think so... seen that shrimp morph on other things- don't really have close ups though.. [21:33:59] worm tubes [21:36:22] LAT :-4.14960, LON : -174.85302, DEPTH : 1143.1817m, TEMP : 4.07972C, SAL : 34.56029 PSU, DO : 2.88478 mg/L [21:36:35] resilient rocks in this area of the pacific... [21:37:10] @Steve - any idea why? [21:37:45] No clue. geologists> [21:37:47] ? [21:38:30] @Steve, or did you mean resistant? [21:38:49] yes resistant to collection; [21:38:55] I think Matt Jackson woulds say we are too shallow and on not very steep terrain for good rocks [21:39:26] I think the manganese crust has cemented everything together. [21:40:05] we are in the zone of thick manganese crusts [21:41:23] LAT :-4.14956, LON : -174.85304, DEPTH : 1141.6934m, TEMP : 4.10849C, SAL : 34.55140 PSU, DO : 2.93569 mg/L [21:44:46] that's a big anemone! Must be enough food to support it. [21:45:04] Leathery stem suggests its a hormathiid [21:46:23] LAT :-4.14950, LON : -174.85286, DEPTH : 1136.1719m, TEMP : 4.08779C, SAL : 34.55894 PSU, DO : 2.93832 mg/L [21:47:32] erikcordes leaves the room [21:48:02] Diplacanthopoma [21:48:15] Thanks andrea [21:49:46] Andrea, I thought all bythidids had split pelvic filaments, which that fish didn't have. [21:51:23] LAT :-4.14950, LON : -174.85278, DEPTH : 1129.1848m, TEMP : 4.11530C, SAL : 34.55931 PSU, DO : 2.97548 mg/L [21:54:54] red amphipod? [21:55:02] I think if we want to know, we need to collect. We have seen ophiuroids on them. It would be good to collect one that has associates on it [21:55:06] collection? [21:55:09] Yes, an amphipod [21:55:20] I would agree with a collection [21:55:36] agree with collection. [21:55:57] agree [21:56:01] Can seen the skinny arm ophiuroids on the background rock- not seen as a coral associate [21:56:23] I htink we should collect- suggest find one with associates if possible (biased) [21:56:24] LAT :-4.14953, LON : -174.85277, DEPTH : 1128.5049m, TEMP : 4.13297C, SAL : 34.55793 PSU, DO : 2.94582 mg/L [21:56:53] note that larger colonies likely have associates... [21:57:33] apparently it is one of dominant coral here. [21:57:49] @Chris no. they are either absent or with a single filamentous ray [21:58:11] briankennedy leaves the room [21:58:43] live seruplid extended [22:00:55] a great rock! Nice! [22:01:24] LAT :-4.14949, LON : -174.85271, DEPTH : 1127.0971m, TEMP : 4.13840C, SAL : 34.56580 PSU, DO : 2.94132 mg/L [22:01:42] malcolmclark leaves the room [22:01:44] looks like a great sample! [22:01:48] excellent for collection - have that as ophiuroid morph 2 on this white coral. [22:02:01] christopherkelley leaves the room [22:05:12] Great collection [22:05:46] I just got a question from Tarawa (capital of Kiribati) - how does the diversity and abundance of life on these 2 PIPA dives compare so far to what has been observed in the deep sea in other large MPAs? Any insights? [22:06:25] LAT :-4.14946, LON : -174.85277, DEPTH : 1127.1177m, TEMP : 4.16654C, SAL : 34.55734 PSU, DO : 2.93910 mg/L [22:11:26] LAT :-4.14951, LON : -174.85265, DEPTH : 1123.0183m, TEMP : 4.15590C, SAL : 34.55837 PSU, DO : 2.93504 mg/L [22:16:26] LAT :-4.14932, LON : -174.85259, DEPTH : 1113.4357m, TEMP : 4.15305C, SAL : 34.55776 PSU, DO : 2.86160 mg/L [22:16:53] baby anthomastus [22:17:31] 3-4 yrs, if the growth rates are similar to Monterey Bay [22:19:41] We've observed the Tsuchya Jets (a.k.a Deep Equatorial Counter Current) in the watercolumn here, maxing out to about a knot @ 600m. They are stacked structures and likely have something to do with the currents down here as well. [22:21:27] LAT :-4.14924, LON : -174.85248, DEPTH : 1109.2992m, TEMP : 4.16171C, SAL : 34.55807 PSU, DO : 2.95017 mg/L [22:22:44] amandademopoulos leaves the room [22:26:06] @Jan, would the general direction of the DECC be west to east, even at this depth? [22:26:18] mashkoormalik leaves the room [22:26:27] LAT :-4.14918, LON : -174.85244, DEPTH : 1105.3100m, TEMP : 4.16193C, SAL : 34.55502 PSU, DO : 2.92586 mg/L [22:27:58] sweet hat on that crab [22:28:59] yes, but... Recent studies suggest a series of stacked, counter-acting currents with predominant E component. So bet would be East, but West wouldn't be impossible... [22:29:43] interesting, thanks [22:30:51] `@Jan - thanks! [22:31:28] LAT :-4.14916, LON : -174.85243, DEPTH : 1101.2236m, TEMP : 4.16654C, SAL : 34.55849 PSU, DO : 2.93286 mg/L [22:36:28] LAT :-4.14906, LON : -174.85222, DEPTH : 1092.2568m, TEMP : 4.17778C, SAL : 34.55543 PSU, DO : 2.88814 mg/L [22:39:55] briankennedy leaves the room [22:40:54] janwitting leaves the room [22:41:29] LAT :-4.14899, LON : -174.85215, DEPTH : 1087.9924m, TEMP : 4.22399C, SAL : 34.55424 PSU, DO : 2.90413 mg/L [22:42:44] nolanbarrett leaves the room [22:46:19] randirotjan leaves the room [22:46:29] LAT :-4.14888, LON : -174.85211, DEPTH : 1080.1594m, TEMP : 4.22952C, SAL : 34.55240 PSU, DO : 2.87619 mg/L [22:51:30] LAT :-4.14871, LON : -174.85205, DEPTH : 1074.9615m, TEMP : 4.22684C, SAL : 34.55534 PSU, DO : 2.93018 mg/L [22:52:46] woo-hoo! shout out! [22:53:02] looks like the goniasterid Ceramaster again....I stick my neck out until Chris Mah calls.....:-) [22:54:24] I think we have seen this one...actuallyl looks more like Evoplosoma- notorious coral eater.... [22:54:36] goniasterid either way,... [22:56:30] LAT :-4.14870, LON : -174.85202, DEPTH : 1073.8313m, TEMP : 4.22985C, SAL : 34.55492 PSU, DO : 2.93259 mg/L [22:59:36] crysogorgia full of associates [22:59:47] and a paramuricea in foreground [23:00:09] or are those egg cases of some sort? [23:00:35] i don't see tentacles on those other structures? [23:00:52] yeah - i think eggs! [23:01:06] i don't think stoloniferan [23:01:15] agreed [23:01:20] I don't think stoloniferan either [23:01:31] LAT :-4.14874, LON : -174.85205, DEPTH : 1072.9978m, TEMP : 4.23084C, SAL : 34.55498 PSU, DO : 2.94592 mg/L [23:01:43] It looked like the "eggs" had stoloniferan polyps. now it doesn't look like that [23:01:44] other types of parasites maybe? [23:02:05] iscwatch2 leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [23:02:36] maybe... [23:03:12] doesnt look crustacean egg-like [23:03:20] but maybe? [23:03:41] weird! [23:04:00] very weird [23:04:09] i was thinking gastropod, but we havent seen many [23:04:25] so the white bodies inside the elongate case are eggs? [23:04:31] thats my guess [23:04:42] really have not seen this before....mimics a squat lobster arm.... [23:04:51] or some sort of weird parasite? with a very altered morphology [23:05:22] nemertean? [23:05:28] no clue... [23:06:03] they reminded me more of squid egg cases [23:06:31] LAT :-4.14869, LON : -174.85185, DEPTH : 1071.7275m, TEMP : 4.24037C, SAL : 34.55607 PSU, DO : 2.95461 mg/L [23:06:39] yes [23:06:57] yeah, could be. thats a good guess [23:07:02] better than mine :) [23:07:12] although I was in the same phylum for a little while there... [23:08:08] ha…its just a guess. [23:09:27] could be. shape looks like squid egg cases. but it may take bit effort for squid to put them among Chryso's branches :) [23:09:37] red paragorgia [23:10:04] possibly [23:11:32] LAT :-4.14872, LON : -174.85188, DEPTH : 1071.1982m, TEMP : 4.23242C, SAL : 34.55386 PSU, DO : 2.95344 mg/L [23:12:15] yes! [23:12:18] different kind [23:16:33] LAT :-4.14869, LON : -174.85179, DEPTH : 1070.4201m, TEMP : 4.23434C, SAL : 34.55433 PSU, DO : 2.97679 mg/L [23:16:39] heres that purple octocoral again. Much smaller colony [23:16:51] very cute [23:17:04] a single polyp. brand new recruit! [23:17:20] possible crawling planula [23:17:51] it might have one - i didn't see one :) [23:18:52] do you think we can collect purple one? [23:19:07] if we find a larger one I think it would be a good candidate [23:19:41] great. [23:21:33] LAT :-4.14857, LON : -174.85173, DEPTH : 1067.6220m, TEMP : 4.24957C, SAL : 34.55411 PSU, DO : 2.99936 mg/L [23:26:34] LAT :-4.14846, LON : -174.85177, DEPTH : 1062.0821m, TEMP : 4.25735C, SAL : 34.55302 PSU, DO : 2.99170 mg/L [23:28:13] arrived at ridge, turning to head upslope [23:31:34] LAT :-4.14834, LON : -174.85171, DEPTH : 1058.9070m, TEMP : 4.27629C, SAL : 34.55327 PSU, DO : 2.97549 mg/L [23:33:00] erikcordes leaves the room [23:34:27] yes, saw 1 chirostylid. [23:34:56] did not see the "egg masses" we saw on the last zoom in on Chrysogorgia [23:36:35] LAT :-4.14830, LON : -174.85167, DEPTH : 1057.5888m, TEMP : 4.29430C, SAL : 34.55223 PSU, DO : 2.87284 mg/L [23:36:37] 2 chirostylids on that Chrysogorgia [23:38:44] had to do a few things so missed the strange Chrysogorgia, but went back and looked. My guess is parasite, but not in the polyp. We know some chrysos are parasitized and the polyps get very elongated, but I think there are still tentacles at the distal end. This bag was pointed distally. [23:40:06] argument against egg case is that there were only 2, maybe three white things in the bag, suggesting dense part of an organism. And the white things were not round.... [23:40:17] Interesting les. That might be why I thought they were stoloniferans... [23:40:33] I could have sworn I saw one close up [23:40:55] we'll have to check the replay in detail.... [23:41:35] LAT :-4.14814, LON : -174.85162, DEPTH : 1050.4731m, TEMP : 4.32899C, SAL : 34.55237 PSU, DO : 2.91198 mg/L [23:42:18] brendanroark leaves the room [23:46:36] LAT :-4.14802, LON : -174.85161, DEPTH : 1047.2807m, TEMP : 4.32462C, SAL : 34.55259 PSU, DO : 2.97966 mg/L [23:50:13] Definitely relicanthis [23:50:34] i agree. maybe two in there? [23:50:41] yes [23:50:46] Andrea, definitely [23:51:36] LAT :-4.14791, LON : -174.85172, DEPTH : 1046.4698m, TEMP : 4.32292C, SAL : 34.55232 PSU, DO : 2.90764 mg/L [23:52:31] We've seen them in the Marianas [23:52:50] yes, several times last year [23:53:58] reminds me of a similar crab you collected in Caribbean [23:54:23] andrea-yup [23:54:31] looks like a young spiky king crab, or queen crab [23:55:09] nice how the spikes on the carapace are real long, but not fully developed on the legs [23:55:48] briankennedy leaves the room [23:56:37] LAT :-4.14787, LON : -174.85161, DEPTH : 1043.1426m, TEMP : 4.32292C, SAL : 34.55368 PSU, DO : 3.02031 mg/L [23:57:09] It's a Brotula (Bythitidae) [23:57:26] oops...nevermind. [23:57:27] not sure what this is [23:57:57] need to zoom into lateral line [23:58:10] zoom again? [23:59:35] @Chris the lateral line was like lamprogrammus? I thought it looked like white dots down the center...