From: Jeremy Werdell <jeremy.werdell@nasa.gov
Date: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: SeaBASS data archive
To: Tim Boyer <tim.boyer@noaa.gov
Cc: Hernan Garcia <hernan.garcia@noaa.gov, "Bailey, Sean (GSFC-616.0)[FUTURETECH]" <sean.w.bailey@nasa.gov, "Mcclain, Charles R. (GSFC-6160)" <charles.r.mcclain@nasa.gov, "Bontempi, Paula (HQ-DK000)" <paula.bontempi@nasa.gov, "Feldman, Gene C. (GSFC-6102)" <gene.c.feldman@nasa.gov, "Proctor, Christopher W. (GSFC-616.0)[SCIENCE SYSTEMS AND APPLICATIONS INC]" <christopher.w.proctor@nasa.gov, "LEFLER, JASON T. (GSFC-610.2)[EARTH RESOURCE TECHNOLOGY]" <jason.t.lefler@nasa.gov, NODC.DataOfficer@noaa.gov, bryan.a.franz@nasa.gov

Hi Tim,

Sorry for the wait on this. Just uploaded three files to your FTP
site -- all start with "seabass4nodc_". All are bzip2'ed tar
bundles. One is all data through Dec 31 1999. One is all data
from Jan 1 2000 to Dec 31 2008. The last is a compilation of
relevant pubs, TMs, and other docs that may be of interest. Let
me know if you have any questions or problems. Otherwise, enjoy.

Best,

J

On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 08:19:14AM -0600, Tim Boyer wrote:
Jeremy,

Happy New Year to you. I consulted with our head archiver. Based
on his recommendations, can you please do the following:

- make two separate bundles: 1) all pre-2000 data 2) all
2000-2009 data
- place the bundles on ftp://ftp.nodc.noaa.gov/pub/incoming
- send an email to NODC.DataOfficer@noaa.gov, cc'ed to myself
and Hernan (hernan.garcia@noaa.gov) letting us know the data
file names

We will set the data up in our archive and make sure you are happy
with our representation of the data.

I appreciate all your help.

Regards,
Tim

On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Jeremy Werdell wrote:

Hi Tim,

Happy New Year. Everything you suggest regarding handling of
the constraints sounds good to me. We'll work on bundling the
pre-2009 data and get back in touch. Just FYI, some of the
pre-2000 data originally submitted has been updated over the
past few years. How would you like to handle this? Off the
top of my head, we could go a few different ways:

(1) Send you everything from pre-2009 and have this submission
replace our old submission.

(2) Send you everything from 2000-2009 and updates from pre-2000.

(3) Send you everything from 2000-2009 to get this process
started and work through the pre-2000 updates at a later time.

Your call. Other suggestions welcome.

I believe that Mike Ford was the contact for our original data
submission. I think others were involved, but I'd have to
dig deep into my email archive. Memory isn't what it used to be.

Looks like the data were submitted in Jan 2002:

http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/OAS/prd/accession/details/0000632


Take care.

J

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 08:07:51AM -0600, Tim Boyer wrote:
Jeremy,

Hernan is out of the office until the end of the year, so I
am responding regarding the SeaBASS archiving. To comply with,
or rather avoid, restriction (2) we would prefer to receive
just pre-2009 data for now as you suggest. Maybe we can revisit your
website each year to download one more year of data.

As for condition (1), as you say, this is difficult to enforce,
but we can do the following:

- with the dataset, we will include a standard metadata entry called
User_constraints, which usually states
"NOAA and NODC would appreciate recognition as the resource from which
these data were obtained in any publications and/or other representations
of these data."

In the present case, this will be reworded to ask the user to
acknowledge SeaBASS and NASA instead. We will also include any
additional statement that you would like in the 'about' section for the
archived data.

The User_Constraint metadata will be visible whenever anyone
accesses the record for the archived data. The 'about' section
is only visible if someone clicks on that link.

We plan to enter the data into the World Ocean Database (WOD), a product
NODC puts out with our archived in situ profile data in a single format.
In this product, each cast (deployment of instrument) will contain
a piece of metadata called 'Database_Origin' which contains the name
of the database from which the data were obtained. In this case,
that would be NASA SeaBASS. In the introduction to WOD, which is
released as part of our Atlas series, we will also acknowledge
NASA and SeaBASS and ask users to acknowledge the database if they
use these specific data.

If the NODC handling of your constraints is ok with you, we would
very much appreciate if you could bundle the pre-2009 data and
place them on our ftp site:
ftp://ftp.nodc.noaa.gov/pub/incoming
and send an email to myself and Hernan indicating that the data
are on that site.

I was not aware that you had worked with someone here at NODC
previously to archive SeaBASS data. I know this does not inspire
confidence, but I am unable to ascertain who it was you worked with here
at NODC. Could you tell me who you worked with here to archive
the pre-2000 data SeaBASS data and when that process occurred?

Thanks,
Tim Boyer
National Oceanographic Data Center

On Wed, 21 Dec 2011, Jeremy Werdell wrote:

Hi Hernan,

Thanks for the note and my apologies for the delay in responding.

We only have two firm restrictions on these data: (1) that anyone
using SeaBASS data in their research acknowledge both NASA and
SeaBASS; and, (2) that anyone planning to publish SeaBASS data
collected within 3-yrs of the publication date contact the original
data contributor to inform them and to offer co-authorship.
Otherwise, the data are fully publicly available.

We realize these restrictions are difficult to enforce. To
accomodate #2, perhaps only transferring date collected pre-2009 is
prudent? Or do you have a mechanism to make this policy clearly
known to anyone who downloads the data from NODC?

How would you like to proceed with regards to acquiring these data?
Note, all data collected pre-2000 already resides at the NODC.
For this previous transfer, we bundled up the data on this end and
sent several large compressed files to the NODC. You are welcome
to download the data yourself, but we're happy to help with the
transfer (starting in Jan, anyway).

Happy holidays.

Best,

Jeremy



On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 09:37:03AM -0600, Hernan Garcia wrote:
Hello,

If possible, I would like to download and archive the SeaBASS data at
the National Oceanographic Data Center (NODC).All of the archived data
at NODC are made available online to the public without restrictions.
Are there any restrictions in us at NODC archiving and serving SeaBASS
data at NODC? As part of our archiving process, we develop metadata
acknowledging the submitting source of the data and other relevant
information.

SeaBASS Data Access Policy: http://seabass.gsfc.nasa.gov/access.htm

Thanks in advance,

Hernan

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